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I've worked a half-day Friday schedule (in a factory situation where productivity is much more easily measured) and while the hours were _great_ for the workers

I've worked a half-day Friday schedule (in a factory situation where productivity is much more easily measured) and while the hours were _great_ for the workers, it played havoc with productivity and output. Most people basically slowed way down on Fridays because they knew that a) there wasn't much time to do anything so why not wait b) everyone else was slow so it would take even longer. Ideally in this situation, you would get more out of your workers on Mo-Thu but that didn't happen. Instead, they went with a 9/80 schedule and it worked out great for management and the workforce.

rattray 10y ago
I hadn't heard of a 9/80 schedule before: “A "9/80 schedule" means that on 4 days per week you work 9 hours, and on the 5th you either work 8 hours or you have a day off. So for example, you may work 9-hour days Monday through Thursday, and on Fridays, you either work an 8-hour day or take the day off. 9/80 means that you work 80 hours over 9 days, instead of the traditional 10.” https://workfamily.sas.upenn.edu/glossary/n/nineeighty-work-week-definitions https://workfamily.sas.upenn.edu/glossary/n/nineeighty-work-... Sounds great to me
- Bartweiss 10y ago
  Everyone I know on 9/80s loves them. I think it's partly that a lot of 8-hour-day jobs bleed towards 9 hours, but (explicit) 9 hour days are less likely to bleed up to 10. But even at stated hours, it's got a lot of advantages. Free weekdays are incredibly useful, and the ability to schedule around 3 day weekends (or 4 day weekends on holidays) is a huge hit with people who want to take any kind of short trips.
- VLM 10y ago
  I suspect this is a little confusing to any day care that doesn't also operate 9/80. I did 4/10s for my kids entire day care "career" and that was enough to really confuse them a couple times. Another fun day care problem is some bill by week and make the employees watch the clock like hawks to make sure no one is getting more than their fair share, while others bill by the hour and don't care if you're late, in fact they enjoy the extra money. Both sides sometimes insist the other side doesn't exist and their way is the only correct way to run a day care. Obviously 9/80 or 4/40 or anything more exotic than 9-5 M-F is going to need some care in selecting the correct day care billing model (Note strange, yet honestly serious possible startup topic: brokering parents with day cares WRT weird schedule constraints and location constraints)

rattray 10y ago

I hadn't heard of a 9/80 schedule before: “A "9/80 schedule" means that on 4 days per week you work 9 hours, and on the 5th you either work 8 hours or you have a day off. So for example, you may work 9-hour days Monday through Thursday, and on Fridays, you either work an 8-hour day or take the day off. 9/80 means that you work 80 hours over 9 days, instead of the traditional 10.” https://workfamily.sas.upenn.edu/glossary/n/nineeighty-work-week-definitions https://workfamily.sas.upenn.edu/glossary/n/nineeighty-work-... Sounds great to me

Bartweiss 10y ago
Everyone I know on 9/80s loves them. I think it's partly that a lot of 8-hour-day jobs bleed towards 9 hours, but (explicit) 9 hour days are less likely to bleed up to 10. But even at stated hours, it's got a lot of advantages. Free weekdays are incredibly useful, and the ability to schedule around 3 day weekends (or 4 day weekends on holidays) is a huge hit with people who want to take any kind of short trips.
VLM 10y ago
I suspect this is a little confusing to any day care that doesn't also operate 9/80. I did 4/10s for my kids entire day care "career" and that was enough to really confuse them a couple times. Another fun day care problem is some bill by week and make the employees watch the clock like hawks to make sure no one is getting more than their fair share, while others bill by the hour and don't care if you're late, in fact they enjoy the extra money. Both sides sometimes insist the other side doesn't exist and their way is the only correct way to run a day care. Obviously 9/80 or 4/40 or anything more exotic than 9-5 M-F is going to need some care in selecting the correct day care billing model (Note strange, yet honestly serious possible startup topic: brokering parents with day cares WRT weird schedule constraints and location constraints)