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> No, they [the US] rebuilt their economies and tried to ensure that they had stable governments & trading partners. Except we completely stiffed Russia, who w

by 0xfeba 10y ago

> No, they [the US] rebuilt their economies and tried to ensure that they had stable governments & trading partners. Except we completely stiffed Russia, who without which we wouldn't have won WWII, at least not so easily. And then since things were peaceful we decided to make the USSR the enemy for then next 40 years, via the threat of "communism" spreading. And that led to Vietnam, Korea, etc., and all the military action in virtually every country of Central/South America. No one is claiming we're all morally equal.

refurb 10y ago
Wow. I would disagree enitrely about how the west treated Russia. You're forgetting Stalin colluded with Hitler to split up Eastern Europe. That included murdering thousands of Polish officers who were a threat to Soviet rule. The only reason why Russia was fighting the Hitler was because he was double crossed. Russia's threat to European democracy was clearly evident even before WW2 started.
- 0xfeba 10y ago
  > You're forgetting Stalin colluded with Hitler to split up Eastern Europe. That included murdering thousands of Polish officers who were a threat to Soviet rule. The only reason why Russia was fighting the Hitler was because he was double crossed. Yes, but Khrushchev was in power for the majority of time right after the war and was like a total 180 from Stalin, who seemed to honestly want to improve relations. But I suppose this is all hindsight.
opo 10y ago
>...Except we completely stiffed Russia, “stiffed” would imply we didn’t pay a debt we had previously agreed upon. Obviously that is not the case. As to why the Soviet Union or eastern Europe was not part of the Marshall Plan: >...Although offered participation, the Soviet Union refused Plan benefits, and also blocked benefits to Eastern Bloc countries, such as East Germany and Poland. The United States provided similar aid programs in Asia, but they were not called "Marshall Plan". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan

by 0xfeba 10y ago

refurb 10y ago

Wow. I would disagree enitrely about how the west treated Russia. You're forgetting Stalin colluded with Hitler to split up Eastern Europe. That included murdering thousands of Polish officers who were a threat to Soviet rule. The only reason why Russia was fighting the Hitler was because he was double crossed. Russia's threat to European democracy was clearly evident even before WW2 started.

0xfeba 10y ago
> You're forgetting Stalin colluded with Hitler to split up Eastern Europe. That included murdering thousands of Polish officers who were a threat to Soviet rule. The only reason why Russia was fighting the Hitler was because he was double crossed. Yes, but Khrushchev was in power for the majority of time right after the war and was like a total 180 from Stalin, who seemed to honestly want to improve relations. But I suppose this is all hindsight.

opo 10y ago

>...Except we completely stiffed Russia, “stiffed” would imply we didn’t pay a debt we had previously agreed upon. Obviously that is not the case. As to why the Soviet Union or eastern Europe was not part of the Marshall Plan: >...Although offered participation, the Soviet Union refused Plan benefits, and also blocked benefits to Eastern Bloc countries, such as East Germany and Poland. The United States provided similar aid programs in Asia, but they were not called "Marshall Plan". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_Plan