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I don't think anyone, red or blue or purple, really wants to stop skilled immigrants from coming to America. The debate is around those who are less skilled.

moultano 10y ago
Steve Bannon does.
- leereeves 10y ago
  Source?
  - otalp 10y ago
    http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/16/13653490/steve-bannon-trump-presidency-chief-strategist-breitbart-tech-visa http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/16/13653490/steve-bannon-tru...
    - leereeves 10y ago
      I was hoping for an actual quote from Bannon that supports that claim, instead of an article that admits: > While Bannon didn’t explicitly say anything against immigrants, then adds the partisan spin: > he seemed to hint ...
      - otalp 10y ago
        I was not the OP who you replied to but I assumed that this was what he was referring to. When asked about students staying back in the country after going to Ivy league schools the quote is “When two-thirds or three-quarters of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think . . . ” Bannon said, not finishing the sentence. “A country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society.” Which implies that he would prefer fewer legal immigrants. The three-quarters figure is of course a gross exagerration.
        leereeves 10y ago
        > Steve Bannon would prefer fewer legal immigrants I think that's a fair characterization of his position. Fewer. But I'm asking about a source for the claim "[Steve Bannon] wants to stop skilled immigrants from coming to America".
        moultano 10y ago
        When he's talking about CEOs of tech companies, "skilled" is assumed.
        leereeves 10y ago
        Skilled is fair, "stop" is what I'm questioning.
  - vthallam 10y ago
    I couldn't find the video, i suppose the soundcloud link on Verge has the audio where he does say we should not keep people who went good American schools. link : https://soundcloud.com/breitbart/breitbart-news-daily-donald-trump-november-2-2015 https://soundcloud.com/breitbart/breitbart-news-daily-donald... The part where he says, "a country is more than a economy, it's also a civic society" in the context that there are more south asian CEO's in silicon valley is terrifying.
    - leereeves 10y ago
      Where in the recording is the quote you're talking about?
      - vthallam 10y ago
        Watch from 2:32 in the video on this page https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bannon-flattered-and-coaxed-trump-on-policies-key-to-the-alt-right/2016/11/15/53c66362-ab69-11e6-a31b-4b6397e625d0_story.html?utm_term=.05c387bc4a92 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bannon-flattered...
        leereeves 10y ago
        That's still only those few words from Bannon. I'd like to hear the quote in context and not speculate or repeat partisan spin based on one sentence he once said.
  - projectramo 10y ago
    http://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2017/02/01/bannon-legal-immigration-the-beating-heart-of-americas-problems/ http://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2017/02/01/bannon-legal-immigr... "Isn’t the beating heart of this problem, the real beating heart of it, of what we got to get sorted out here, is not illegal immigration, as horrific as that is and it’s horrific, don’t we have a problem and we’ve looked the other way on this legal immigration..." -- Bannon
    - leereeves 10y ago
      Completing the quote: "... and how it’s overwhelmed the country? When you look and it’s got 61 million, 20 percent of the country is immigrants. Is that not a massive problem?" I don't know about those numbers, they seem to come from a right-wing think-tank called the Center for Immigration Studies [1], but wasn't Bannon claiming that there are too many immigrants? Which wouldn't be the same as wanting to stop all immigration. 1: http://cis.org/61-Million-Immigrants-and-Their-Young-Children-Now-Live-in-the-United-States http://cis.org/61-Million-Immigrants-and-Their-Young-Childre...
  - dragonwriter 10y ago
    See a sibling comments to GP: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13598624 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13598624
tonyedgecombe 10y ago
If you are a skilled worker then you should probably think twice about it.
dragonwriter 10y ago
> I don't think anyone, red or blue or purple, really wants to stop skilled immigrants from coming to America. Lots of people, some of them quite publicly—including Steve Bannon, Trump's Chief Strategist in that latter group—do. Some because they are competition for jobs, some because of general xenophobia, some for other reasons. Bannon has specifically criticized legal immigration generally, and the "progressive plutocrats of Silicon Valley" and the H1B program and the preponderance of Asians (calling out both South and East) in tech specifically. If you think he's only interested in curbing "less skilled" immigration, you're mistaken. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bannon-explained-his-worldview-well-before-it-became-official-us-policy/2017/01/31/2f4102ac-e7ca-11e6-80c2-30e57e57e05d_story.html?postshare=1421485961396127&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.3b9e5e2e9a77 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bannon-explained-his...
- davidw 10y ago
  They're even looking at cracking down on family visas outside of spouses and kids.

moultano 10y ago

Steve Bannon does.

leereeves 10y ago
Source?
- otalp 10y ago
  http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/16/13653490/steve-bannon-trump-presidency-chief-strategist-breitbart-tech-visa http://www.theverge.com/2016/11/16/13653490/steve-bannon-tru...
  - leereeves 10y ago
    I was hoping for an actual quote from Bannon that supports that claim, instead of an article that admits: > While Bannon didn’t explicitly say anything against immigrants, then adds the partisan spin: > he seemed to hint ...
    - otalp 10y ago
      I was not the OP who you replied to but I assumed that this was what he was referring to. When asked about students staying back in the country after going to Ivy league schools the quote is “When two-thirds or three-quarters of the CEOs in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think . . . ” Bannon said, not finishing the sentence. “A country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society.” Which implies that he would prefer fewer legal immigrants. The three-quarters figure is of course a gross exagerration.
      - leereeves 10y ago
        > Steve Bannon would prefer fewer legal immigrants I think that's a fair characterization of his position. Fewer. But I'm asking about a source for the claim "[Steve Bannon] wants to stop skilled immigrants from coming to America".
        moultano 10y ago
        When he's talking about CEOs of tech companies, "skilled" is assumed.
        leereeves 10y ago
        Skilled is fair, "stop" is what I'm questioning.
- vthallam 10y ago
  I couldn't find the video, i suppose the soundcloud link on Verge has the audio where he does say we should not keep people who went good American schools. link : https://soundcloud.com/breitbart/breitbart-news-daily-donald-trump-november-2-2015 https://soundcloud.com/breitbart/breitbart-news-daily-donald... The part where he says, "a country is more than a economy, it's also a civic society" in the context that there are more south asian CEO's in silicon valley is terrifying.
  - leereeves 10y ago
    Where in the recording is the quote you're talking about?
    - vthallam 10y ago
      Watch from 2:32 in the video on this page https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bannon-flattered-and-coaxed-trump-on-policies-key-to-the-alt-right/2016/11/15/53c66362-ab69-11e6-a31b-4b6397e625d0_story.html?utm_term=.05c387bc4a92 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/how-bannon-flattered...
      - leereeves 10y ago
        That's still only those few words from Bannon. I'd like to hear the quote in context and not speculate or repeat partisan spin based on one sentence he once said.
- projectramo 10y ago
  http://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2017/02/01/bannon-legal-immigration-the-beating-heart-of-americas-problems/ http://mcfeely.areavoices.com/2017/02/01/bannon-legal-immigr... "Isn’t the beating heart of this problem, the real beating heart of it, of what we got to get sorted out here, is not illegal immigration, as horrific as that is and it’s horrific, don’t we have a problem and we’ve looked the other way on this legal immigration..." -- Bannon
  - leereeves 10y ago
    Completing the quote: "... and how it’s overwhelmed the country? When you look and it’s got 61 million, 20 percent of the country is immigrants. Is that not a massive problem?" I don't know about those numbers, they seem to come from a right-wing think-tank called the Center for Immigration Studies [1], but wasn't Bannon claiming that there are too many immigrants? Which wouldn't be the same as wanting to stop all immigration. 1: http://cis.org/61-Million-Immigrants-and-Their-Young-Children-Now-Live-in-the-United-States http://cis.org/61-Million-Immigrants-and-Their-Young-Childre...
- dragonwriter 10y ago
  See a sibling comments to GP: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13598624 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13598624

tonyedgecombe 10y ago

If you are a skilled worker then you should probably think twice about it.

dragonwriter 10y ago

> I don't think anyone, red or blue or purple, really wants to stop skilled immigrants from coming to America. Lots of people, some of them quite publicly—including Steve Bannon, Trump's Chief Strategist in that latter group—do. Some because they are competition for jobs, some because of general xenophobia, some for other reasons. Bannon has specifically criticized legal immigration generally, and the "progressive plutocrats of Silicon Valley" and the H1B program and the preponderance of Asians (calling out both South and East) in tech specifically. If you think he's only interested in curbing "less skilled" immigration, you're mistaken. https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bannon-explained-his-worldview-well-before-it-became-official-us-policy/2017/01/31/2f4102ac-e7ca-11e6-80c2-30e57e57e05d_story.html?postshare=1421485961396127&tid=ss_tw&utm_term=.3b9e5e2e9a77 https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/bannon-explained-his...

davidw 10y ago
They're even looking at cracking down on family visas outside of spouses and kids.