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Questions for Valley workers: at what point is enough enough? What will it take to pack it up and leave? Would you consider moving to a different country or r

Questions for Valley workers: at what point is enough enough? What will it take to pack it up and leave? Would you consider moving to a different country or returning to a home country? If so, would you continue to work for your current employer, would you look for a job in the local market, or would you found a startup?

pinballwiz 10y ago
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- rm_-rf_slash 10y ago
  Last I checked, white men still bankrolled and ran the show and held most of the tech jobs. What was your experience?
  - pinballwiz 10y ago
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    - amyjess 10y ago
      Loss of privilege feels like oppression, but it isn't.
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      - talmand 10y ago
        That's a rather simple-minded response. You define the person as having privilege without knowing said person, and then dehumanize them by saying their situation is irrelevant to justify your offensive attitude. There are circumstances that the purpose of removal of privileges is specifically for oppression.
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        caseydurfee 10y ago
        You're going to get a hernia if you keep straining that hard.
        talmand 10y ago
        And then there's the unnecessary personal attack.
    - the_commentary 10y ago
      It's ridiculous that your previous comment got instantly flagged - apparently some things are not allowed to be a discussion.
    - rm_-rf_slash 10y ago
      Actually I am quite interested in hearing about these "H1b cartels." I feel that this issue is underreported. I am also still quite bitter about the Disney World bait-and-switch, and so I believe this issue deserves more attention. I work in higher education, and H1bs have been very useful for attracting talented faculty from all over the world. It's neither a perfect nor fundamentally broken system, but to understand how to fix it we should feel free to discuss the flaws and benefits openly.
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- GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
  White male here, I've never felt anything but welcome in SV.
pyb 10y ago
The larger problem is not so much people leaving, but those not coming to the Valley in the first place.
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mavelikara 10y ago
I am from India, and am on H-1B. I had started making plans to leave in late 2014. I convinced myself that if the administration does not do anything to fix green card backlogs by end of that calendar year, I should leave in 2015. Obama's State of the Union address gave new hopes, and I stayed back. The promises made then went through the red tape and USCIS finally published its ruling last November [1]. Unfortunately it did not contain any relief for skilled immigrants stuck in green card backlogs. My current plan is to wait until end of this calendar year to see how things progress. My green card priority date is April 2012 and, as things stand now, I am still many years away from getting a green card. I will re-evaluate in December. If I don't see this administration making any concrete plans to fix things for the green card backlog, I will leave in 2018. H.R.392: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2017 [2] gives me hope. It currently has 66 co-sponsors [3] and will hopefully pass. H.R. 392, Fairness for High Skilled Immigrants Act replaces the current per-country caps on immigration with a first-come first-served visa system without increasing the total number of available visas. The current system of awarding no more than 7% of available employment-based visas to one country is discriminatory. It ultimately imposes decades-long wait times for people from some countries, creating a backlog of qualified workers. The bill makes no changes to the current law limiting US employers to hire foreign workers except when there are no qualified, willing, able, and available American citizens. [1] https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-publishes-final-rule-certain-employment-based-immigrant-and-nonimmigrant-visa-programs https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-publishes-fin... [2] http://chaffetz.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=785 http://chaffetz.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentI... [3] https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/392/cosponsors?r=3 https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/392/...

pinballwiz 10y ago

rm_-rf_slash 10y ago
Last I checked, white men still bankrolled and ran the show and held most of the tech jobs. What was your experience?
- pinballwiz 10y ago
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  - amyjess 10y ago
    Loss of privilege feels like oppression, but it isn't.
    - deleted 10y ago
      [deleted]
    - talmand 10y ago
      That's a rather simple-minded response. You define the person as having privilege without knowing said person, and then dehumanize them by saying their situation is irrelevant to justify your offensive attitude. There are circumstances that the purpose of removal of privileges is specifically for oppression.
      - deleted 10y ago
        [deleted]
      - caseydurfee 10y ago
        You're going to get a hernia if you keep straining that hard.
        talmand 10y ago
        And then there's the unnecessary personal attack.
  - the_commentary 10y ago
    It's ridiculous that your previous comment got instantly flagged - apparently some things are not allowed to be a discussion.
  - rm_-rf_slash 10y ago
    Actually I am quite interested in hearing about these "H1b cartels." I feel that this issue is underreported. I am also still quite bitter about the Disney World bait-and-switch, and so I believe this issue deserves more attention. I work in higher education, and H1bs have been very useful for attracting talented faculty from all over the world. It's neither a perfect nor fundamentally broken system, but to understand how to fix it we should feel free to discuss the flaws and benefits openly.
    - deleted 10y ago
      [deleted]
GFK_of_xmaspast 10y ago
White male here, I've never felt anything but welcome in SV.

pyb 10y ago

The larger problem is not so much people leaving, but those not coming to the Valley in the first place.

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mavelikara 10y ago

I am from India, and am on H-1B. I had started making plans to leave in late 2014. I convinced myself that if the administration does not do anything to fix green card backlogs by end of that calendar year, I should leave in 2015. Obama's State of the Union address gave new hopes, and I stayed back. The promises made then went through the red tape and USCIS finally published its ruling last November [1]. Unfortunately it did not contain any relief for skilled immigrants stuck in green card backlogs. My current plan is to wait until end of this calendar year to see how things progress. My green card priority date is April 2012 and, as things stand now, I am still many years away from getting a green card. I will re-evaluate in December. If I don't see this administration making any concrete plans to fix things for the green card backlog, I will leave in 2018. H.R.392: Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2017 [2] gives me hope. It currently has 66 co-sponsors [3] and will hopefully pass. H.R. 392, Fairness for High Skilled Immigrants Act replaces the current per-country caps on immigration with a first-come first-served visa system without increasing the total number of available visas. The current system of awarding no more than 7% of available employment-based visas to one country is discriminatory. It ultimately imposes decades-long wait times for people from some countries, creating a backlog of qualified workers. The bill makes no changes to the current law limiting US employers to hire foreign workers except when there are no qualified, willing, able, and available American citizens. [1] https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-publishes-final-rule-certain-employment-based-immigrant-and-nonimmigrant-visa-programs https://www.uscis.gov/news/news-releases/uscis-publishes-fin... [2] http://chaffetz.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=785 http://chaffetz.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentI... [3] https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/392/cosponsors?r=3 https://www.congress.gov/bill/115th-congress/house-bill/392/...