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I think that's one of the big problems the Kodi team has with these 'fully loaded' boxes [1]. People buy them and they work for a week, and then the streams br

I think that's one of the big problems the Kodi team has with these 'fully loaded' boxes [1]. People buy them and they work for a week, and then the streams break, etc. and these people have no idea how to update them so they come on the various Kodi support forums blaming Kodi for all the problems. Meanwhile the sellers have disappeared and are selling the boxes under a new name. [1] https://kodi.tv/the-piracy-box-sellers-and-youtube-promoters-are-killing-kodi/ https://kodi.tv/the-piracy-box-sellers-and-youtube-promoters...

thirdsun 10y ago
And it leaves a rather bad reputation. Similar to Bittorrent. Recently an absolutely non-tech-savvy friend of mine explained to a bunch of friends how he was streaming pirated movies, TV etc. via Kodi. I was blown away that he even knew about XBMC / Kodi, the classic media center I've been using for more than a decade (though never with subpar, crappy streams). Needless to say he only knew about it since it was advertised as enabling piracy. He most certainly didn't download it from official sources and will run into problems in no time. I just wanted to say that I was very surprised to see Kodi reach mainstream awareness and it's a little sad that this was enabled via the infamous piracy spotlight.
- dublinben 10y ago
  Don't kid yourself. The users of Kodi have always been using it to watch their own pirated media collections. They just weren't using streaming services, so there was a higher barrier to entry. Now that it truly is a one stop shop for pirated media access, it's reached the primetime.
  - thirdsun 10y ago
    > Don't kid yourself. The users of Kodi have always been using it to watch their own pirated media collections. Yes, me included. I think that's an entirely different discussion, but let me just point out that I love to buy content that I own. I do it with music all the time. Buying about 5-10 lossless digital albums is a weekly habit for me. I can't do that with movies since content creators / publishers don't allow me to buy that kind of content in a digital, DRM-free format I truly own. - It has to be DRM-free as I want to play it with my media player of choice and possibly long after the service I bought it from may or may not be around any longer. - While I don't care for the physical medium and would prefer to play the movie in Kodi, it could be Bluray if it wasn't for the long delays between theatrical release, US Bluray release and the release in my country. I don't care for localization. I require the original audio track / language. I'm not content with the delay between US Bluray and local Bluray release while the movie is already available on torrent sites. Bottom line: I'd gladly pay for movies if it was as easy and consumer friendly as buying music.
    - mulletbum 10y ago
      Same. I don't buy it, but I pay for both Spotify and Apple Music. But I will not get the same from Netflix. I have to get Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, etc. just to get back to what I actually want. I am not saying Spotify has absolutely everything, but it is so close to everything I don't have to worry too much. I don't even pay for Apple music because they have different content, I only do that because it works better in my car and spotify works better with Echo.

thirdsun 10y ago

And it leaves a rather bad reputation. Similar to Bittorrent. Recently an absolutely non-tech-savvy friend of mine explained to a bunch of friends how he was streaming pirated movies, TV etc. via Kodi. I was blown away that he even knew about XBMC / Kodi, the classic media center I've been using for more than a decade (though never with subpar, crappy streams). Needless to say he only knew about it since it was advertised as enabling piracy. He most certainly didn't download it from official sources and will run into problems in no time. I just wanted to say that I was very surprised to see Kodi reach mainstream awareness and it's a little sad that this was enabled via the infamous piracy spotlight.

dublinben 10y ago
Don't kid yourself. The users of Kodi have always been using it to watch their own pirated media collections. They just weren't using streaming services, so there was a higher barrier to entry. Now that it truly is a one stop shop for pirated media access, it's reached the primetime.
- thirdsun 10y ago
  > Don't kid yourself. The users of Kodi have always been using it to watch their own pirated media collections. Yes, me included. I think that's an entirely different discussion, but let me just point out that I love to buy content that I own. I do it with music all the time. Buying about 5-10 lossless digital albums is a weekly habit for me. I can't do that with movies since content creators / publishers don't allow me to buy that kind of content in a digital, DRM-free format I truly own. - It has to be DRM-free as I want to play it with my media player of choice and possibly long after the service I bought it from may or may not be around any longer. - While I don't care for the physical medium and would prefer to play the movie in Kodi, it could be Bluray if it wasn't for the long delays between theatrical release, US Bluray release and the release in my country. I don't care for localization. I require the original audio track / language. I'm not content with the delay between US Bluray and local Bluray release while the movie is already available on torrent sites. Bottom line: I'd gladly pay for movies if it was as easy and consumer friendly as buying music.
  - mulletbum 10y ago
    Same. I don't buy it, but I pay for both Spotify and Apple Music. But I will not get the same from Netflix. I have to get Netflix, Amazon Prime, Hulu, etc. just to get back to what I actually want. I am not saying Spotify has absolutely everything, but it is so close to everything I don't have to worry too much. I don't even pay for Apple music because they have different content, I only do that because it works better in my car and spotify works better with Echo.