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I was kinda surprised that Go (golang) wasn't up in the list

OJFord 10y ago
I was expecting to see Rust - I thought it was a considerably 'hotter' language than reflected by its current use in the wild. Also, I find SO's coverage of it lacking. So maybe it's more about people sourcing the information elsewhere - relatively good docs, active and helpful community in IRC, and more Q&A on Reddit (albeit mostly - again, anecdotally - out of date, but still) than SO.
- civility 10y ago
  This chart was not what I expected: http://www.arepeopletalkingaboutit.com/tags/ocaml,scheme,rust,go,haskell,swift,ruby,c,c++,python http://www.arepeopletalkingaboutit.com/tags/ocaml,scheme,rus...
  - OJFord 10y ago
    That's not so surprising, is it? Unless I'm missing something that graph's all time - there's definitely tonnes of Python Q&A on SO, and as I (anecdotally) described above, not much Rust. That graph would be better titled "Have people talked about it".
    - civility 10y ago
      > Unless I'm missing something that graph's all time Yeah, I missed that. I thought it was recent history. If we normalized by years available, Swift seems like an outlier with Go lesser so.
- santaclaus 10y ago
  > I was expecting to see Rust - I thought it was a considerably 'hotter' language than reflected by its current use in the wild. Rust is pretty hot on Hacker News and r/programming, but even working in a systems-language-heavy field, I haven't seen too much mindshare (outside of some friends at Mozilla). It is kind of a shame, both Rust and D are doing really cool things, and I'd love to see more penetration!
  - flukus 10y ago
    I know rust is a systems language and that that can and should remain it's focus. But it does seem high level enough to use as an applications language (which c and c++ are still used for as well). I'd did speak to a college recently that generally keeps up with new trends and he hadn't heard of rust though, so maybe the community is very small.
  - steveklabnik 10y ago
    It was rated "most loved" on last year's SO survey, and #3 the year before, so I thought it might be on here too. Oh well, they can't fit anything :) https://www.rust-lang.org/en-US/friends.html https://www.rust-lang.org/en-US/friends.html has very many non-Mozilla organizations :)
shurcooL 10y ago
Me too. I realized one factor that might play a role. I came primarily from a C++ background, and back then, stackoverflow and google were paramount and used daily. Now that I'm primarily using Go, I almost always get my answers from godoc.org (i.e., the documentation of packages), from source code, from the specification, and from trying things on playground. I don't remember using stackoverflow for Go programming questions in years, if ever. I wonder if that's a property of Go language (great docusmentation, easily readable source, referenceable spec and viability of answering questions via playground experiments) that cause this, and if it applies to other people too.

I was expecting to see Rust - I thought it was a considerably 'hotter' language than reflected by its current use in the wild. Also, I find SO's coverage of it lacking. So maybe it's more about people sourcing the information elsewhere - relatively good docs, active and helpful community in IRC, and more Q&A on Reddit (albeit mostly - again, anecdotally - out of date, but still) than SO.

civility 10y ago
This chart was not what I expected: http://www.arepeopletalkingaboutit.com/tags/ocaml,scheme,rust,go,haskell,swift,ruby,c,c++,python http://www.arepeopletalkingaboutit.com/tags/ocaml,scheme,rus...
- OJFord 10y ago
  That's not so surprising, is it? Unless I'm missing something that graph's all time - there's definitely tonnes of Python Q&A on SO, and as I (anecdotally) described above, not much Rust. That graph would be better titled "Have people talked about it".
  - civility 10y ago
    > Unless I'm missing something that graph's all time Yeah, I missed that. I thought it was recent history. If we normalized by years available, Swift seems like an outlier with Go lesser so.
santaclaus 10y ago
> I was expecting to see Rust - I thought it was a considerably 'hotter' language than reflected by its current use in the wild. Rust is pretty hot on Hacker News and r/programming, but even working in a systems-language-heavy field, I haven't seen too much mindshare (outside of some friends at Mozilla). It is kind of a shame, both Rust and D are doing really cool things, and I'd love to see more penetration!
- flukus 10y ago
  I know rust is a systems language and that that can and should remain it's focus. But it does seem high level enough to use as an applications language (which c and c++ are still used for as well). I'd did speak to a college recently that generally keeps up with new trends and he hadn't heard of rust though, so maybe the community is very small.
- steveklabnik 10y ago
  It was rated "most loved" on last year's SO survey, and #3 the year before, so I thought it might be on here too. Oh well, they can't fit anything :) https://www.rust-lang.org/en-US/friends.html https://www.rust-lang.org/en-US/friends.html has very many non-Mozilla organizations :)

shurcooL 10y ago

Me too. I realized one factor that might play a role. I came primarily from a C++ background, and back then, stackoverflow and google were paramount and used daily. Now that I'm primarily using Go, I almost always get my answers from godoc.org (i.e., the documentation of packages), from source code, from the specification, and from trying things on playground. I don't remember using stackoverflow for Go programming questions in years, if ever. I wonder if that's a property of Go language (great docusmentation, easily readable source, referenceable spec and viability of answering questions via playground experiments) that cause this, and if it applies to other people too.