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I am going to coin the term "Bitcoin Rodeo". It refers to the fact that people get rich from bitcoin if they don't fall off their bull by: Losing their coins

I am going to coin the term "Bitcoin Rodeo". It refers to the fact that people get rich from bitcoin if they don't fall off their bull by: Losing their coins e.g. forgetting a password, throwing away a laptop. Having their coins hacked from their computer by a Trojan or the mentioned attack. An exchange loses them or shuts down. Due to greed you wait it out and bitcoin plummets to zero Due to greed day trade your stash into the ground. Due to fear sold your 1000 btc at 10$ each back in the day. Etc.

PhilWright 10y ago
And this is why Bitcoin is doomed to fail as a genuine currency. Imagine if your bank said they had lost your money and tough luck on you. Or you bank emails you to say they have been hacked and all your money is gone. Or the bank just disappears offline and your money is gone. Or you forget a password and so your bank says sorry, but that means all your money is gone forever. Great system.
- RichardHeart 10y ago
  If you can protect your nude photos from getting on the net, you can protect your private key from getting on the net. Browsing the internet used to require the command line.
  - bbcbasic 10y ago
    The only way to protect it is to not have it on a computer that is connected to the internet. There are schemes involving throwing dice to generate a key, writing it on paper, using a python script or suchlike to generate an address from the dice throws etc. Something like that would be pretty secure, as long as no one breaks in to your house to get the key (or you can remember it).
- reddytowns 10y ago
  Apples and oranges. Your bank doesn't issue currency. Your bank could accept bitcoin and run nearly the same as it runs today.
  - bbcbasic 10y ago
    Except that you wouldn't get much legal protection if someone runs off with your bitcoin. A bitcoin transaction is irreversible and unfreezable, so there is not a lot the bank or legal system can do to try and retrieve stolen funds. And there is less of a trace to who the thief is. As a result you probably aren't going to get the government failure guarantees on bitcoin as you would for fiat. Let alone governments wont want you using a different currency that they can't print.
    - reddytowns 10y ago
      No one can "freeze" cash, either, which is what currency is. A number in a bank account can represent us dollars, bitcoin or whatever else. You're talking about two different things here. I agree with your point about government failure guarantees, however.
      - bbcbasic 10y ago
        I was talking about money in a bank account (i.e. an electronic record of a bank's liability to it's customer), rather than cash.
    - digler999 10y ago
      FWIW banks couldn't operate without at least one mode of "irreversible and unfreezable" currency transactions, aka fed wire transfers.
- microtherion 10y ago
  Bitcoin works more like SouthPark Bank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Maa0K4ycASo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Maa0K4ycASo

PhilWright 10y ago

And this is why Bitcoin is doomed to fail as a genuine currency. Imagine if your bank said they had lost your money and tough luck on you. Or you bank emails you to say they have been hacked and all your money is gone. Or the bank just disappears offline and your money is gone. Or you forget a password and so your bank says sorry, but that means all your money is gone forever. Great system.

RichardHeart 10y ago
If you can protect your nude photos from getting on the net, you can protect your private key from getting on the net. Browsing the internet used to require the command line.
- bbcbasic 10y ago
  The only way to protect it is to not have it on a computer that is connected to the internet. There are schemes involving throwing dice to generate a key, writing it on paper, using a python script or suchlike to generate an address from the dice throws etc. Something like that would be pretty secure, as long as no one breaks in to your house to get the key (or you can remember it).
reddytowns 10y ago
Apples and oranges. Your bank doesn't issue currency. Your bank could accept bitcoin and run nearly the same as it runs today.
- bbcbasic 10y ago
  Except that you wouldn't get much legal protection if someone runs off with your bitcoin. A bitcoin transaction is irreversible and unfreezable, so there is not a lot the bank or legal system can do to try and retrieve stolen funds. And there is less of a trace to who the thief is. As a result you probably aren't going to get the government failure guarantees on bitcoin as you would for fiat. Let alone governments wont want you using a different currency that they can't print.
  - reddytowns 10y ago
    No one can "freeze" cash, either, which is what currency is. A number in a bank account can represent us dollars, bitcoin or whatever else. You're talking about two different things here. I agree with your point about government failure guarantees, however.
    - bbcbasic 10y ago
      I was talking about money in a bank account (i.e. an electronic record of a bank's liability to it's customer), rather than cash.
  - digler999 10y ago
    FWIW banks couldn't operate without at least one mode of "irreversible and unfreezable" currency transactions, aka fed wire transfers.
microtherion 10y ago
Bitcoin works more like SouthPark Bank: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Maa0K4ycASo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Maa0K4ycASo