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Ok, you have 'baptism' as one ritual in 500 pages, which by the way, is originally a Jewish thing anyhow. Now that's exactly what I am calling 'cherry picking'

Ok, you have 'baptism' as one ritual in 500 pages, which by the way, is originally a Jewish thing anyhow. Now that's exactly what I am calling 'cherry picking'. As (barely) a Protestant - I don't see any of those other things as 'rituals' of any relevance. If you throw in 'wine and bread' - you have two. Wow. Two whole rituals. I'd argue that it's you that are 'seeing what you want to see'. Nobody would deny that many elements of Jesus story are borrowed for other narratives. Just as nobody would imply that the New Testament is 'just an amalgamation of a bunch of other stuff'. Ironically, both examples you gave: 'Baptism' and 'Wine and Bread' - are not based on some 'borrowed ideas' - they are effectively original in their own context.

redial 10y ago
You were the one saying there were no rituals, I just mentioned two because it's been a while since I've had to argue this stuff. By the way, praying is also a ritual, as is Saving the sabbath (still performed by some christian denominations). And baptism being jewish (and not only jewish but practiced by many other faiths at the time) just proves further my point of unoriginality. And when there is a whole branch of christianity founded on the baptism ritual, the Baptists, I say you are the one cherrypicking the parts of the bible you want to ignore to fit your narrative. > Ok, you have 'baptism' as one ritual in 500 pages, which by the way, is originally a Jewish thing anyhow. > Ironically, both examples you gave: 'Baptism' and 'Wine and Bread' - are not based on some 'borrowed ideas' - they are effectively original in their own context. This is the main problem. You contradict yourself on every point.