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"'I am that I am' was said by Jesus who ate, defecated and did everything else like any other human being, and he is considered being the God by Christians, so
by edblarney 10y ago
"'I am that I am' was said by Jesus who ate, defecated and did everything else like any other human being, and he is considered being the God by Christians, so he's very much like the Greek gods walking around the Earth all the time, "
1) You were comparing Jesus to the Greek gods, not 'The Father of Jesus'. That's your quote right there.
2) You're a little off on your 'comparative religion'.
Jesus, Mohamed and Buddha were human beings, who were spiritual teachers, not quite 'gods' (although many people consider Christ 'God incarnate' - he was ultimately human as well.).
We follow Jesus, Mohamed and Buddhist teachings, and spiritual which are all 'monotheistic' - or in the case of Buddhism, not quite 'theist' but nevertheless a singular presentation of a 'higher concept'.
This is fundamentally different from Egyptian, Mesopotamian, Greek and Roman religions.
I am not saying that 'Jesus is the same as Mohammed and the Buddha' - I am saying that they are all basically Common Era religions which are in a different category than the others.
Your comments about Mohammed are incomplete to the point of misrepresentation. Yes - he did some crazy things, but he also said many more good things, and his writing is in fact quite beautiful.
Finally - you picked a very poor example of how Jesus is different than Buddha: "as Buddha was the one who recognized that he can chose to not believe in the religious dogma of his environment"
Jesus indeed, asked his followers to not get caught up in dogma as well and simply 'have faith'. In a manner of speaking, that's pretty close to accepting divine notions of 'nirvana'.
Matthew 22:37-40 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’[a] 38 This is the first and greatest commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’[b] 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
Basically he is saying 'all the other religious stuff doesn't matter' - this two things are what matters.
There are many other similar quotes where he calls out the 'hypocrisy' of certain Pharisee acts.
So in fact - Jesus and the Buddha are pretty similar at least on that point.
Summary:
Jesus, Buddha, Mohammed - Common Era human beings who are Spiritual Teachers: followers do as they say.
Greek, Roman, Egyptian, Mesopotamian polytheistic Gods and myths - a soap opera of 'super humans' doing various things. There's no moral philosophy or spiritual premise, though you do get some metaphysical ideals I guess.
- acqq 10y agoI'm comparing there Jesus, who's for the Christians "THE God." One part of the "one God in three Divine Persons", the "central mystery" of Christianity for most of its existence. Your claim that Jesus is "ultimately human" and at the same time that Mohammad "wrote" "beautiful" things leaves me wondering how much you actually know about the religions. Even if you belong to, for example, Jehovah's Witnesses, you have to be aware that a) your denomination didn't exist before 1870s and the rest of the Christians believe in Jesus the God for at least 17 centuries b) your beliefs are distinct from the mainstream Christianity and c) your number is minute compared to all other Christians. Can you please specify which Mohammad's "writing is in fact quite beautiful"? What have you read that Mohammad wrote? Thanks.