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I think it'd be interesting to do this on the 15th of every month. Have the 1st of the month be the "Who's Hiring", and the 15th the "Who's Firing".

pvg 10y ago
The problem is, "Who's firing?" is not some useful dual of "Who's hiring". While not 'gratifying intellectual curiosity', the who's hiring threads are a useful monthly exception since people do actually look for hires and for jobs. "Who's firing" would just be a way to have a monthly rumors and gossip thread. There are already sites upon sites for that.
- patmcguire 10y ago
  What would be a useful dual? "Who's shutting down"? I want to know: 1) A high-level overview of companies I've kind of heard about that didn't work out for whatever reason, or are have hit big roadblocks. That's useful information. 2) Where to find people to actively reach out to, if there's a big group of people leaving there are good people looking for jobs. A lot of teams get formed from the ashes of other teams.
  - pvg 10y ago
    For 1, postmortems of various kinds are linked here regularly. So that's covered As to 2, I don't think that's what the site is really for. Who's hiring is already a sanctioned exception (there's also one for YC company job posts). Either way, though, such threads are much more likely to generate rumors and gossip than actionable information and you're likely to keep seeing it flagged off the front page. Might be worth emailing the mods if you feel it's that important but I'd be surprised if you can talk them into it.
    - patmcguire 10y ago
      For the first, the occasional postmortem isn't that useful. I hoped to know when things go away as easily as I can find out when they're coming out. There's a massive push on creation that takes care of the first one, but after only occasional breathless praise slowly turning into dead silence for almost everyone. Maybe 1/100 writes a postmortem and that goes too deep too narrowly. Or they are silently successful. "Gets to front page of HN" is not a great filter. Second would have to be "Who's Looking" or something, I guess it's done the other way around so candidates don't get hammered with 10k recruiter emails. There haven't been great responses on this Ask HN, and looking back on the previous one it was also worse than I remembered. I've accepted that this isn't going to work out in practice.
      - pvg 10y ago
        "Who's looking" variants already exist. The postmortem thing, I suppose if you want more of them you're probably better off finding some like-minded people and setting up a forum of some sort - fb page, twitter tag, subreddit, whatever. That way you don't have to rely on the broader topic range and limited frontpage space of HN.
- tabeth 10y ago
  The entire purpose of the voting system is to determine if its useful or not. Might as well just do it: if its desired it'll be voted up, if not it'll fade into irrelevance.
  - pvg 10y ago
    The site is actively moderated and there are also rules. This is not 'Nam. If it was just the voting it would have imploded long ago. Notice this thing had plenty of votes.
samstave 10y ago
+1 - but may have legal ramifications :-( How about instead, "Who's Looking?" Edit: or a "recommend me an FTE candidate who can do X" - make X very specific, only accept answers from people vi PM, or some system such that you can validate your cress for the recommendation/their skills without revealing who is looking...

pvg 10y ago

The problem is, "Who's firing?" is not some useful dual of "Who's hiring". While not 'gratifying intellectual curiosity', the who's hiring threads are a useful monthly exception since people do actually look for hires and for jobs. "Who's firing" would just be a way to have a monthly rumors and gossip thread. There are already sites upon sites for that.

patmcguire 10y ago
What would be a useful dual? "Who's shutting down"? I want to know: 1) A high-level overview of companies I've kind of heard about that didn't work out for whatever reason, or are have hit big roadblocks. That's useful information. 2) Where to find people to actively reach out to, if there's a big group of people leaving there are good people looking for jobs. A lot of teams get formed from the ashes of other teams.
- pvg 10y ago
  For 1, postmortems of various kinds are linked here regularly. So that's covered As to 2, I don't think that's what the site is really for. Who's hiring is already a sanctioned exception (there's also one for YC company job posts). Either way, though, such threads are much more likely to generate rumors and gossip than actionable information and you're likely to keep seeing it flagged off the front page. Might be worth emailing the mods if you feel it's that important but I'd be surprised if you can talk them into it.
  - patmcguire 10y ago
    For the first, the occasional postmortem isn't that useful. I hoped to know when things go away as easily as I can find out when they're coming out. There's a massive push on creation that takes care of the first one, but after only occasional breathless praise slowly turning into dead silence for almost everyone. Maybe 1/100 writes a postmortem and that goes too deep too narrowly. Or they are silently successful. "Gets to front page of HN" is not a great filter. Second would have to be "Who's Looking" or something, I guess it's done the other way around so candidates don't get hammered with 10k recruiter emails. There haven't been great responses on this Ask HN, and looking back on the previous one it was also worse than I remembered. I've accepted that this isn't going to work out in practice.
    - pvg 10y ago
      "Who's looking" variants already exist. The postmortem thing, I suppose if you want more of them you're probably better off finding some like-minded people and setting up a forum of some sort - fb page, twitter tag, subreddit, whatever. That way you don't have to rely on the broader topic range and limited frontpage space of HN.
tabeth 10y ago
The entire purpose of the voting system is to determine if its useful or not. Might as well just do it: if its desired it'll be voted up, if not it'll fade into irrelevance.
- pvg 10y ago
  The site is actively moderated and there are also rules. This is not 'Nam. If it was just the voting it would have imploded long ago. Notice this thing had plenty of votes.

samstave 10y ago

+1 - but may have legal ramifications :-( How about instead, "Who's Looking?" Edit: or a "recommend me an FTE candidate who can do X" - make X very specific, only accept answers from people vi PM, or some system such that you can validate your cress for the recommendation/their skills without revealing who is looking...