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That's cheeky... AFAIK PayPal does absolutely jack shit for sellers other than give them the money they rightfully earned... sometimes Now they demand equal re

by tomc1985 10y ago

That's cheeky... AFAIK PayPal does absolutely jack shit for sellers other than give them the money they rightfully earned... sometimes Now they demand equal representation?

pc86 10y ago
I'm no PayPal apologist, but would you say the same thing about American Express about "demanding equal representation?" It makes sense that PayPal doesn't want its sellers to basically say "please use any of these other ten methods of payment, but as a last resort if you have to use PayPal fine I guess you can." I don't see a problem with requiring people who accept PayPal not to talk out of both sides of their mouth by simultaneously accepting it and trying to discourage it.
- RHSeeger 10y ago
  Perhaps, as an alternate approach to the problem, they could consider changing their own business practices so that companies didn't feel the need to persuade customers not to use PayPal. Ie, if companies didn't despise you for treating them so poorly, they probably wouldn't be so inclined to bad mouth you.
  - pc86 10y ago
    Yes, "don't be shitty" is obvious the suggestion most people would have. That's sort of ignoring the point though.
    - tomc1985 10y ago
      But it isn't. It is the root of their problem, making it exactly the point. You're right, though, in the sense that the advice won't be followed. It's too obvious and not convoluted enough to make sense to businesspeople
- masscontrol 10y ago
  It's more than that. PayPal now requires that "you agree to treat PayPal’s payment mark at least at par with other payment methods offered". That means the seller's PayPal button and logo must be at least as prominent as any other payment method offered. For me (a reluctant PayPal user at best), that's asking too much.
- tomc1985 10y ago
  > PayPal doesn't want its sellers to basically say "please use any of these other ten methods of payment, but as a last resort if you have to use PayPal fine I guess you can." If they don't want people to do that then they can offer a quality of service that does not cause people to disparage them. What I really don't understand is, why can't PayPal just fix what everyone hates about it?

That's cheeky... AFAIK PayPal does absolutely jack shit for sellers other than give them the money they rightfully earned... sometimes Now they demand equal representation?

pc86 10y ago

I'm no PayPal apologist, but would you say the same thing about American Express about "demanding equal representation?" It makes sense that PayPal doesn't want its sellers to basically say "please use any of these other ten methods of payment, but as a last resort if you have to use PayPal fine I guess you can." I don't see a problem with requiring people who accept PayPal not to talk out of both sides of their mouth by simultaneously accepting it and trying to discourage it.

RHSeeger 10y ago
Perhaps, as an alternate approach to the problem, they could consider changing their own business practices so that companies didn't feel the need to persuade customers not to use PayPal. Ie, if companies didn't despise you for treating them so poorly, they probably wouldn't be so inclined to bad mouth you.
- pc86 10y ago
  Yes, "don't be shitty" is obvious the suggestion most people would have. That's sort of ignoring the point though.
  - tomc1985 10y ago
    But it isn't. It is the root of their problem, making it exactly the point. You're right, though, in the sense that the advice won't be followed. It's too obvious and not convoluted enough to make sense to businesspeople
masscontrol 10y ago
It's more than that. PayPal now requires that "you agree to treat PayPal’s payment mark at least at par with other payment methods offered". That means the seller's PayPal button and logo must be at least as prominent as any other payment method offered. For me (a reluctant PayPal user at best), that's asking too much.
tomc1985 10y ago
> PayPal doesn't want its sellers to basically say "please use any of these other ten methods of payment, but as a last resort if you have to use PayPal fine I guess you can." If they don't want people to do that then they can offer a quality of service that does not cause people to disparage them. What I really don't understand is, why can't PayPal just fix what everyone hates about it?