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While I might find a lot niches of porn a little distasteful... or a lot distasteful in some cases, I think they're reaching a bit. Surely the kinds of people v

While I might find a lot niches of porn a little distasteful... or a lot distasteful in some cases, I think they're reaching a bit. Surely the kinds of people visiting these sites are already interested in seeing this kind of stuff... and thus are already 'damaged'. I feel like the cause and effect is being reversed somehow. Perhaps that's just me. Edit for clarification: I used the word 'damaged' in reference to the parent post, it was not a word of my own choosing.

tomjen3 10y ago
I am not quite sure what you refer to. There are basically only niches in porn and a lot them a distasteful or even disgusting, but on the other hand reading the article it is not clear to me that porn they specialized in, the last one I saw made by that company was only special in that it did not end in a body shoot.
cjslep 10y ago
"Damaged" is certainly an interesting word choice, given that the American standard of sexuality and sexual expression is already unhealthy. Edit to add: Unfortunately I don't know anything about Russian standards.
- balabaster 10y ago
  I used the word "damaged" in reference to the headline that it "Damages human psyche", I wasn't using this in terms of my own perspective. We're all fucked up in our own unique and fascinating ways... to the point that I'd say that labeling our tastes as fucked up or damaged almost seems ridiculous. We're all on the spectrum somewhere. Every last one of us.
nemo1618 10y ago
Most children are interested in eating candy. Doesn't mean we should give them unrestricted access to as much candy as they want.
- CaptSpify 10y ago
  Are you suggesting that a grown adult shouldn't be able to make their own choices?* I find that absurd. *EDIT: To be clear, I'm talking about choices on what sort of media to consume.
  - k__ 10y ago
    They are suggesting parents should start parenting again.
    - dpark 10y ago
      This is utterly irrelevant to the topic of Russia blocking porn sites.
  - neilellis 10y ago
    All societies provide restrictions on human behaviour. Grown adults do make their own choices. To become gambling addicts, to beat wifes, to lie to each other. Not all of our choices are good or correct. We should always have the humility to accept we can make bad choices and that adulthood doesn't confer some mystical ability to make only good choices. The difference is making restrictions through compassion, as a loving parent does to a child. Compared to making restrictions out of a desire for control, like all authoritarian rulers.
    - CaptSpify 10y ago
      You bring up a good point, in that my question was poorly worded, I've edited it to be more clear.
    - psyc 10y ago
      Both of the stances you're trying to draw a moral distinction between are authoritarian stances.
    - slavik81 10y ago
      That is literally the idea of a nanny state.
JanneVee 10y ago
By looking at the page it seems that there is a preference on a little more "mature" women on Brazzers. But can't comment on the content otherwise because I have no interest of becoming a customer.
dajohnson89 10y ago
There is a large amount of anecdotal evidence that pornography has been at least a contributing factor in ruining relationships. Moreover, arguments can be made that even at the individual level, viewing of pornography is (1)habit-forming, (2)distort one's views/expectations of sex & intimacy. I think censorship of any form is very stupid. This one included. However the notion that porn can sometimes be bad is not unfounded. Even vanilla porn, let's leave the sick/twisted stuff aside. Excepting illegal things like child porn & bestiality I doubt any consensus can be reached as to what is considered distasteful.
- scotty79 10y ago
  > is (1)habit-forming, Tee drinking, coffee drinking, news watching too. > (2)distort one's views/expectations of sex & intimacy. You'd need to define what views/expectation of sex and intimacy are undistorted.
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- tps5 10y ago
  I agree. You could make the argument that pornography damages people's lives. Of course that doesn't mean the state has the right to censor it. By the same token, I wonder if an argument could be made that the availability of free internet pornography has led to a decrease in sexual assaults/violence/rape. I know of no research into this, but it's not a totally implausible argument on the face of it.
  - rm_-rf_slash 10y ago
    You are correct. The linked source claims that sexual assault rates have halved since the early 90s. Of course, correlation != causation, but 50% is a huge amount and it overlaps quite neatly with the growth of the internet. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem
- antihero 10y ago
  In counter to your anecdotal evidence, I have personal and anecdotal evidence that it can also make relationships way better.
imaginenore 10y ago
If you think people watching porn sites are damaged, you need some self-reflection.
- balabaster 10y ago
  I clarified my point. I don't think they're damaged, the choice of words was in reference to the wording of the original headline.

tomjen3 10y ago

I am not quite sure what you refer to. There are basically only niches in porn and a lot them a distasteful or even disgusting, but on the other hand reading the article it is not clear to me that porn they specialized in, the last one I saw made by that company was only special in that it did not end in a body shoot.

cjslep 10y ago

"Damaged" is certainly an interesting word choice, given that the American standard of sexuality and sexual expression is already unhealthy. Edit to add: Unfortunately I don't know anything about Russian standards.

balabaster 10y ago
I used the word "damaged" in reference to the headline that it "Damages human psyche", I wasn't using this in terms of my own perspective. We're all fucked up in our own unique and fascinating ways... to the point that I'd say that labeling our tastes as fucked up or damaged almost seems ridiculous. We're all on the spectrum somewhere. Every last one of us.

nemo1618 10y ago

Most children are interested in eating candy. Doesn't mean we should give them unrestricted access to as much candy as they want.

CaptSpify 10y ago
Are you suggesting that a grown adult shouldn't be able to make their own choices?* I find that absurd. *EDIT: To be clear, I'm talking about choices on what sort of media to consume.
- k__ 10y ago
  They are suggesting parents should start parenting again.
  - dpark 10y ago
    This is utterly irrelevant to the topic of Russia blocking porn sites.
- neilellis 10y ago
  All societies provide restrictions on human behaviour. Grown adults do make their own choices. To become gambling addicts, to beat wifes, to lie to each other. Not all of our choices are good or correct. We should always have the humility to accept we can make bad choices and that adulthood doesn't confer some mystical ability to make only good choices. The difference is making restrictions through compassion, as a loving parent does to a child. Compared to making restrictions out of a desire for control, like all authoritarian rulers.
  - CaptSpify 10y ago
    You bring up a good point, in that my question was poorly worded, I've edited it to be more clear.
  - psyc 10y ago
    Both of the stances you're trying to draw a moral distinction between are authoritarian stances.
  - slavik81 10y ago
    That is literally the idea of a nanny state.

JanneVee 10y ago

By looking at the page it seems that there is a preference on a little more "mature" women on Brazzers. But can't comment on the content otherwise because I have no interest of becoming a customer.

dajohnson89 10y ago

There is a large amount of anecdotal evidence that pornography has been at least a contributing factor in ruining relationships. Moreover, arguments can be made that even at the individual level, viewing of pornography is (1)habit-forming, (2)distort one's views/expectations of sex & intimacy. I think censorship of any form is very stupid. This one included. However the notion that porn can sometimes be bad is not unfounded. Even vanilla porn, let's leave the sick/twisted stuff aside. Excepting illegal things like child porn & bestiality I doubt any consensus can be reached as to what is considered distasteful.

scotty79 10y ago
> is (1)habit-forming, Tee drinking, coffee drinking, news watching too. > (2)distort one's views/expectations of sex & intimacy. You'd need to define what views/expectation of sex and intimacy are undistorted.
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tps5 10y ago
I agree. You could make the argument that pornography damages people's lives. Of course that doesn't mean the state has the right to censor it. By the same token, I wonder if an argument could be made that the availability of free internet pornography has led to a decrease in sexual assaults/violence/rape. I know of no research into this, but it's not a totally implausible argument on the face of it.
- rm_-rf_slash 10y ago
  You are correct. The linked source claims that sexual assault rates have halved since the early 90s. Of course, correlation != causation, but 50% is a huge amount and it overlaps quite neatly with the growth of the internet. https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem https://www.rainn.org/statistics/scope-problem
antihero 10y ago
In counter to your anecdotal evidence, I have personal and anecdotal evidence that it can also make relationships way better.

imaginenore 10y ago

If you think people watching porn sites are damaged, you need some self-reflection.

balabaster 10y ago
I clarified my point. I don't think they're damaged, the choice of words was in reference to the wording of the original headline.