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Scaleway New Cloud Servers for Intensive Workloads

70 points by edouardb 10y ago

lossolo 10y ago
If anyone interested, I've checked the CPU, it's Xeon D-1531 2.2 GHz.
juskrey 10y ago
Fascinating. My 2014 2.5 GHz i7 MbPro is just 10-15% faster in 7z benchmark.
- OJFord 10y ago
  When you say 'just', would you expect it to be even faster? Does the 7z benchmark not favour multicore machines or vast RAM? 10-15% corresponds pretty directly to the GHz difference - according to @lossolo [0] these are 2.2GHz; your 2.5GHz is about 14% faster. [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13591040 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13591040
  - juskrey 10y ago
    I expected it to be even slower than that - usually happens with discount dedicated hardware. Not this time, apparently.
fictioncircle 10y ago
For comparison: https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-md https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-md https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-ent https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-ent These boxes are better options if you plan to run such nodes for 3+ months.
OJFord 10y ago
> To improve readability of our product range, we're changing the naming convention of our cloud servers. Our new servers are called X64-60GB and X64-120GB. The starter cloud servers, the VC1, will be renamed at the end of the preview to follow the new convention. I'm all for this, the names have never made sense to me. But `X64-60GB` has 10 cores, and `X64-120GB` 12. I think it's certainly conceivable that someone pick whichever for the core count; not (just) the amount of RAM. Why not `10X64-60GB` and `12X64-120GB`? Then there won't be problems again if a future type, `10X64-120GB` under this scheme say, is offered.
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hw 10y ago
Just need these servers in the US with the same pricing, and I'd jump all over it.
- diegorbaquero 10y ago
  OVH in Canada is close
iforgotmypass 10y ago
I am buffled by the relatively low prices. Much, much lower than DigitalOcean. Is this service stable? How can I be sure that they won't go out of business in a few months...?
- hbosch 10y ago
  Scaleway is owned and operated by Online.net[0], part of Iliad[1]. It's probably a safe assumption that DigitalOcean is in more danger of "going out of business in a few months" than Scaleway is. 0. https://online.net https://online.net 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad_SA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad_SA
  - zzzcpan 10y ago
    Exactly, came here to say that. The only problem is that Scaleway can't satisfy all of the demand, so you won't be able to order some things at some point in time.
    - nik736 10y ago
      The only problem? What about their garbage storage system, only 1 IPv4 per server, the object storage which isn't useable for over a year because they have to scale up resources. As much as I like Online, the system is not really useable for most projects in production. Also the network in Amsterdam is quite unstable.
      - joering2 10y ago
        Wow you actually got somewhere! I crashed at verifying credit card. Since they are Europe-based they require "secure 3d". My Amex with $65,000 limit that I use personally and for business works flawlessly in USA and outside for last 7 years. But not with those guys. After back and forth battle with their ticketing system, I was advised by engineer to "finally get a secure 3d card". :) Scaleway should send said engineer for a trip to USA to see we don't use much of Secure 3d here. In fact, my personal account rep said Amex will never implement it because it only adds unnecessary layer and actually doesn't make things safer. Until Scaleway fix their broken payment system, I will stick with DigitalOcean and few other mature and reliable hosting companies, because how the heck am I supposed to trust them with my mission-critical systems, when they cannot even figure their own payment page.
nik736 10y ago
Wonder why the smaller plans don't have the Xeon D as well. The single thread performance of those Atoms suck so much that it's not worth using it for any web app.

70 points by edouardb 10y ago

lossolo 10y ago

If anyone interested, I've checked the CPU, it's Xeon D-1531 2.2 GHz.

juskrey 10y ago

Fascinating. My 2014 2.5 GHz i7 MbPro is just 10-15% faster in 7z benchmark.

OJFord 10y ago
When you say 'just', would you expect it to be even faster? Does the 7z benchmark not favour multicore machines or vast RAM? 10-15% corresponds pretty directly to the GHz difference - according to @lossolo [0] these are 2.2GHz; your 2.5GHz is about 14% faster. [0] - https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13591040 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13591040
- juskrey 10y ago
  I expected it to be even slower than that - usually happens with discount dedicated hardware. Not this time, apparently.

fictioncircle 10y ago

For comparison: https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-md https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-md https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-ent https://www.online.net/en/dedicated-server/dedibox-ent These boxes are better options if you plan to run such nodes for 3+ months.

OJFord 10y ago

> To improve readability of our product range, we're changing the naming convention of our cloud servers. Our new servers are called X64-60GB and X64-120GB. The starter cloud servers, the VC1, will be renamed at the end of the preview to follow the new convention. I'm all for this, the names have never made sense to me. But `X64-60GB` has 10 cores, and `X64-120GB` 12. I think it's certainly conceivable that someone pick whichever for the core count; not (just) the amount of RAM. Why not `10X64-60GB` and `12X64-120GB`? Then there won't be problems again if a future type, `10X64-120GB` under this scheme say, is offered.

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hw 10y ago

Just need these servers in the US with the same pricing, and I'd jump all over it.

diegorbaquero 10y ago
OVH in Canada is close

iforgotmypass 10y ago

I am buffled by the relatively low prices. Much, much lower than DigitalOcean. Is this service stable? How can I be sure that they won't go out of business in a few months...?

hbosch 10y ago
Scaleway is owned and operated by Online.net[0], part of Iliad[1]. It's probably a safe assumption that DigitalOcean is in more danger of "going out of business in a few months" than Scaleway is. 0. https://online.net https://online.net 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad_SA https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iliad_SA
- zzzcpan 10y ago
  Exactly, came here to say that. The only problem is that Scaleway can't satisfy all of the demand, so you won't be able to order some things at some point in time.
  - nik736 10y ago
    The only problem? What about their garbage storage system, only 1 IPv4 per server, the object storage which isn't useable for over a year because they have to scale up resources. As much as I like Online, the system is not really useable for most projects in production. Also the network in Amsterdam is quite unstable.
    - joering2 10y ago
      Wow you actually got somewhere! I crashed at verifying credit card. Since they are Europe-based they require "secure 3d". My Amex with $65,000 limit that I use personally and for business works flawlessly in USA and outside for last 7 years. But not with those guys. After back and forth battle with their ticketing system, I was advised by engineer to "finally get a secure 3d card". :) Scaleway should send said engineer for a trip to USA to see we don't use much of Secure 3d here. In fact, my personal account rep said Amex will never implement it because it only adds unnecessary layer and actually doesn't make things safer. Until Scaleway fix their broken payment system, I will stick with DigitalOcean and few other mature and reliable hosting companies, because how the heck am I supposed to trust them with my mission-critical systems, when they cannot even figure their own payment page.

nik736 10y ago

Wonder why the smaller plans don't have the Xeon D as well. The single thread performance of those Atoms suck so much that it's not worth using it for any web app.