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You act like everyone in the USA has to wear body armor, has to set broken bones themselves and lives in tent cities. I have amazing dental, health, and eyecar

You act like everyone in the USA has to wear body armor, has to set broken bones themselves and lives in tent cities. I have amazing dental, health, and eyecare. Free routine health checkups such as physicals, heck I even get a free gym membership. I drive a 350HP luxury sedan. Oh and I've never shot anyone, had to shoot anyone, or been the victim of a crime other than petty theft where my car was broken into one time. But I do have the freedom to participate in shooting sports (and I do) whenever the heck I want and I don't need to ask mommy for permission. If that's not high quality living standards, you must make 500k a year and be rich because I don't know what is. I think your media has drastically altered your perception of what America is and is not. Tech workers are well compensated and I'd rather be making six figures in America. I'm sure your country is very nice as well, but there is not enough freedom.

MulliMulli 10y ago
This is turning into a pissing contest.
- whorleater 10y ago
  Every $COUNTRY v $COUNTRY or $CITY v $CITY turns into a pissing contest because no one wants to admit they made the wrong choice in settling down somewhere, and end up presenting the best of their place and burying the worst.
  - Cephlin 10y ago
    "But my city has a better system for burying the worst than yours!"
cr1895 10y ago
>I think your media has drastically altered your perception of what America is and is not. You're doing well for yourself, but aren't you also presenting an altered perception of America? Very, very few people in America are as fortunate as you.
- ad-hominem 10y ago
  Very very few people have health insurance coverage and a car? It is actually the people who complain about having no job prospects, who don't have health insurance, and who can't afford a car that are the minority. Americans with jobs, healthcare, and cars are definitely the majority. I would even say the vast majority. Maybe a lot of them have 10k-70k in debt, and there are plenty of problems, but let's not act like America is the equivalent of a third-world country.
ionised 10y ago
Freedom to do what?
NetStrikeForce 10y ago
> I have amazing dental, health, and eyecare. I do have it too, albeit the only one I pay for is the dental one - but more importantly, the barista at my favourite coffee shop has them too. At the same quality level. > Free routine health checkups such as physicals, My doctor calls me to get those done. They chase me! for free! but more importantly, they also chase the barista guy :) > heck I even get a free gym membership. Incidentally I do. I don't think the barista does. Gym fees are between £10 and £30 around here. Of course you an always splash out for David Lloyd's and pay 12x that... > I drive a 350HP luxury sedan. I either cycle 10 minutes or take a bus for 15 minutes. Why would I need a 350HP luxury sedan? I am already wasting money having a 170BHP Alfa Romeo hatchback parked in front of my house 24x7. > Oh and I've never shot anyone, had to shoot anyone, or been the victim of a crime other than petty theft where my car was broken into one time. Same here. Even better, I don't even think about it. Even better, as anyone is allowed to free healthcare there is less desperate people. > But I do have the freedom to participate in shooting sports (and I do) whenever the heck I want You can play shooting sports. My uncle does it regularly. Part of my family are actually hunters. > and I don't need to ask mommy for permission. Please, don't be disrespectful. > If that's not high quality living standards, you must make 500k a year and be rich because I don't know what is. Those are everyone's quality standards in great part of Europe. You are missing the point. > I think your media has drastically altered your perception of what America is and is not. Oh, our media - and I thought we all read TechCrunch, Gizmodo, CNN, BBC, ... Luckily we have you to open your eyes. THANK GOD. > Tech workers are well compensated and I'd rather be making six figures in America. Good for you, but I am making six figures in Europe. Anecdotal data is anecdotal. But even better, the guy not making six figures has free healthcare too. > I'm sure your country is very nice as well, but there is not enough freedom. I guess your freedom to play shooting sports (which you can in Europe too) is more important that your freedom to get free or affordable healthcare should you be in a rough spot. You are privileged, I am privileged. However, I might not be who I am without free healthcare, cheap public nurseries, free quality schools, almost free universities, ... All paid by taxes of those who can, for those who can't. Remember you can be in one of those groups today and in the other tomorrow.
- ad-hominem 10y ago
  Why would I need a 350HP luxury sedan? Well, you have a 10 minute bike ride to work. In America, because of the size of the country, and the culture around bicycling, very very few people bike to work. A lot of people commute 20-30 minutes by car, because they live 8-20 miles from their work. So you don't need a car, especially a nice one. If you spent an hour in the car every day going to and from work, you would probably see the value in a nice(r) car.
sigi45 10y ago
You know my main point was, that it doesn't matter at all for me to go to usa to work there only because the figures are 'higher'. You counter argued nearly every point but not about my 30 days holiday every year and the overhours. Why?

MulliMulli 10y ago

This is turning into a pissing contest.

whorleater 10y ago
Every $COUNTRY v $COUNTRY or $CITY v $CITY turns into a pissing contest because no one wants to admit they made the wrong choice in settling down somewhere, and end up presenting the best of their place and burying the worst.
- Cephlin 10y ago
  "But my city has a better system for burying the worst than yours!"

cr1895 10y ago

>I think your media has drastically altered your perception of what America is and is not. You're doing well for yourself, but aren't you also presenting an altered perception of America? Very, very few people in America are as fortunate as you.

ad-hominem 10y ago
Very very few people have health insurance coverage and a car? It is actually the people who complain about having no job prospects, who don't have health insurance, and who can't afford a car that are the minority. Americans with jobs, healthcare, and cars are definitely the majority. I would even say the vast majority. Maybe a lot of them have 10k-70k in debt, and there are plenty of problems, but let's not act like America is the equivalent of a third-world country.

ionised 10y ago

Freedom to do what?

NetStrikeForce 10y ago

> I have amazing dental, health, and eyecare. I do have it too, albeit the only one I pay for is the dental one - but more importantly, the barista at my favourite coffee shop has them too. At the same quality level. > Free routine health checkups such as physicals, My doctor calls me to get those done. They chase me! for free! but more importantly, they also chase the barista guy :) > heck I even get a free gym membership. Incidentally I do. I don't think the barista does. Gym fees are between £10 and £30 around here. Of course you an always splash out for David Lloyd's and pay 12x that... > I drive a 350HP luxury sedan. I either cycle 10 minutes or take a bus for 15 minutes. Why would I need a 350HP luxury sedan? I am already wasting money having a 170BHP Alfa Romeo hatchback parked in front of my house 24x7. > Oh and I've never shot anyone, had to shoot anyone, or been the victim of a crime other than petty theft where my car was broken into one time. Same here. Even better, I don't even think about it. Even better, as anyone is allowed to free healthcare there is less desperate people. > But I do have the freedom to participate in shooting sports (and I do) whenever the heck I want You can play shooting sports. My uncle does it regularly. Part of my family are actually hunters. > and I don't need to ask mommy for permission. Please, don't be disrespectful. > If that's not high quality living standards, you must make 500k a year and be rich because I don't know what is. Those are everyone's quality standards in great part of Europe. You are missing the point. > I think your media has drastically altered your perception of what America is and is not. Oh, our media - and I thought we all read TechCrunch, Gizmodo, CNN, BBC, ... Luckily we have you to open your eyes. THANK GOD. > Tech workers are well compensated and I'd rather be making six figures in America. Good for you, but I am making six figures in Europe. Anecdotal data is anecdotal. But even better, the guy not making six figures has free healthcare too. > I'm sure your country is very nice as well, but there is not enough freedom. I guess your freedom to play shooting sports (which you can in Europe too) is more important that your freedom to get free or affordable healthcare should you be in a rough spot. You are privileged, I am privileged. However, I might not be who I am without free healthcare, cheap public nurseries, free quality schools, almost free universities, ... All paid by taxes of those who can, for those who can't. Remember you can be in one of those groups today and in the other tomorrow.

ad-hominem 10y ago
Why would I need a 350HP luxury sedan? Well, you have a 10 minute bike ride to work. In America, because of the size of the country, and the culture around bicycling, very very few people bike to work. A lot of people commute 20-30 minutes by car, because they live 8-20 miles from their work. So you don't need a car, especially a nice one. If you spent an hour in the car every day going to and from work, you would probably see the value in a nice(r) car.

sigi45 10y ago

You know my main point was, that it doesn't matter at all for me to go to usa to work there only because the figures are 'higher'. You counter argued nearly every point but not about my 30 days holiday every year and the overhours. Why?