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Does this also encompass the providers' "reading" emails to place appropriate ads and/or services? For example, I noticed recently, that if I have a hotel book
by msravi 10y ago
Does this also encompass the providers' "reading" emails to place appropriate ads and/or services?
For example, I noticed recently, that if I have a hotel booked, Google "reads" my email and annotates Google maps with the dates of my booking.
Does this act apply only to the government's access to email or also the provider's?
Edit: Also, does the government need a warrant only for US citizens' accounts or for anyone's emails stored on US servers?
- foota 10y agoSounded like it was just about government reading based on the earlier conversation.
- rtkwe 10y agoThat functionality is one of the big reasons I love GMail. Automatically pulling out flight, hotel, and package information is really convenient.
- twsted 10y agoIt is often convenience versus privacy. It's unfortunate (in my opinion) that most people choose convenience, without realizing that value of privacy.
- vectorjohn 10y agoPrivacy has literally no tangible value to most people. It's just a warm fuzzy to a few, and a practical value to even fewer. Convenience on the other hand has obvious value to almost everyone.
- ozi 10y agoWe seem to be fast approaching a time where people realize they want their privacy. Saying you don't care about privacy because you have nothing to hide is like saying do you don't care about free speech because you have nothing to say.
- qball 10y ago>Privacy has literally no tangible value to most people. It's just a warm fuzzy to a few, and a practical value to even fewer. There is evidence showing the cost is real, though it's difficult to put a pricetag on missed opportunities. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13571554 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13571554
- Buge 10y agoGoogle has to be able to read your emails, otherwise they wouldn't be able to index them for you to search through. Or do spam detection.
- mc32 10y agoIf your company is using google apps, this would be one of the things of concern. How could you ensure none of your trade secrets are unintentionally leaking via meta data, etc... Unless every account is self-contained and isolated and encrypted at rest and they don't retain a master/admin key.
- stuckagain 10y agoLeaking to whom?
- mc32 10y agoI'll leave that up to your imagination. Additionally, imagine you have an email archive policy but occasionally you need to have some messages deleted, for compliance reasons, do they get deleted from all places they existed in google infrastructure? Are that henceforth irretrievable by google?
- ocdtrekkie 10y agoYou should never assume this. If compliance and assurance that nobody can read your emails is important, you shouldn't be hosting them on Gmail.
- stuckagain 10y agoAre there legitimate cases where compliance requires deleting materials? That sounds like compliance avoidance, not compliance itself.
- mc32 10y agoIf your legal tells you the legal from another entity wants their correspondence deleted, for some valid reason, you are compelled to carry that out.
- rpedela 10y agoOnly government.
- jimbo999 10y agoYou have opted in to that "reading" of your email as a convenience to yourself. Any purpose a government puts to that "voluntary" disclosure remains to be seen.
- dgoldstein 10y agoDefinitely this only applies to government (esp law enforcement) requests. Re: does it just protect US citizens or everyone's emails: dunno. That's a great question. My guess is that it's aimed at US citizens but I imagine agreements like privacy shield may extend those rights to some non citizens. IANAL though and am mostly speculating.
- Veratyr 10y agoHow though is Google parsing your email and annotating Google Maps any different to simply showing you the email in your inbox? It's providing you alone with another way to read your own email.