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John Bates has an extensive blog post describing his allegations on Judith Curry's well-known blog: https://judithcurry.com/2017/02/04/climate-scientists-versus
by jessriedel 10y ago
John Bates has an extensive blog post describing his allegations on Judith Curry's well-known blog: https://judithcurry.com/2017/02/04/climate-scientists-versus-climate-data/ https://judithcurry.com/2017/02/04/climate-scientists-versus...
It was submitted to HN yesterday but got 4 points and 0 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13574012 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13574012
Posts submitted to HN in the last month about the effort to back-up climate data from a suspected erasure by the Trump administration got 448 and 85 points. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13488334 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13488334 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13487843 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13487843
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Bates:
> I read with great irony recently that scientists are “frantically copying U.S. Climate data, fearing it might vanish under Trump” (e.g., Washington Post 13 December 2016). As a climate scientist formerly responsible for NOAA’s climate archive, the most critical issue in archival of climate data is actually scientists who are unwilling to formally archive and document their data. I spent the last decade cajoling climate scientists to archive their data and fully document the datasets. I established a climate data records program that was awarded a U.S. Department of Commerce Gold Medal in 2014 for visionary work in the acquisition, production, and preservation of climate data records (CDRs), which accurately describe the Earth’s changing environment.
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Rebuttal post by Peter Thorne, who was in Karl's group, although was not an author on the key paper:
http://icarus-maynooth.blogspot.ca/2017/02/on-mail-on-sunday-article-on-karl-et-al.html http://icarus-maynooth.blogspot.ca/2017/02/on-mail-on-sunday...
- jcranmer 10y agoIf I may summarize the blog post to characterize the allegations more accurately than the House press release: NOAA scientist used as the basis for a major climate paper a data set which was in an alpha stage in terms of post-processing. This preliminary data should have been at least indicated as such but was not done in the paper submission. The exact differences between the alpha version and released version is not documented, and the dataset used for the paper hasn't apparently been located, so finding the differences is difficult. Notably, Bates doesn't seem to be accusing Karl et. al. of actually manipulating the data to get spectacular results. Rather, the allegation is that the rush to put out the paper induced Karl et. al. to bypass transparency rules designed to prevent, well, suspicion of the data being manipulated.