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No, you don't need to do any of that stuff to disprove an invalid claim. A claim was made that "I feel that regulation makes things clean and safe". I pointed
by Arizhel 10y ago
No, you don't need to do any of that stuff to disprove an invalid claim.
A claim was made that "I feel that regulation makes things clean and safe". I pointed out that that claim is utterly false using actual examples. I don't have to prove that regulation doesn't work anywhere, I only have to prove that it doesn't work somewhere. And in the places I've used taxis (NJ, AZ), they're awful. I have used them in NYC too, and those are OK (though to be fair, I'm not black, which I've read is a big problem there). You're right: it depends on the city, etc. Regulations and regulators are different in different places. But to make the broad claim that "regulation is wonderful!!" is blatantly false, and easily disproven by showing only one example of a place where it doesn't work right. Now, if you want to make the claim that "regulation works really well in location X", that's a defensible claim, and only disproven by showing that things are actually bad in location X (and not other locations).
This seems to be the problem with this whole regulation vs. anti-regulation argument WRT taxis and hotels: the pro-regulation people cherry-pick a few places where things seem to be OK. The anti-regulation point out that their experiences in other places are entirely different. The pro-regulation people them stick their fingers in their ears and refuse to believe that there's places where regulations don't work well. Maybe regulation really does work well in those cherry-picked places, but that doesn't help the places where the regulation is bad and the regulators are corrupt.
- TeMPOraL 10y agoRegulations aren't mathematical proofs. Laws not working somewhere doesn't justify tearing them down everywhere. You don't see people arguing "Hey, seen that robbery on the news? Those regulations obviously don't work; fuck it, let's make theft legal." To reiterate coldpie's point, "regulations don't come about because some lawmakers got bored, they come about in answer to a problem". Before going full anti-regulatory based on personal experience, one would be good to consider the relative impact on all places.
- Arizhel 10y agoI never said they should be torn down or that they can never work. I merely have the position that regulation is not the panacea that the pro-regulation people seem to think it is. If it works, great. If it doesn't work, then instead of harassing the people who work around broken regulations which just support rent-seeking by cronies, maybe we should look at fixing the political system and eliminating the corruption and bad regulation and bad regulators instead. But that's never proposed as a solution, probably because 1) it's too hard, and 2) the pro-regulation people don't like to admit to the existence of corruption.
- mindcrime 10y ago"regulations don't come about because some lawmakers got bored, they come about in answer to a problem" Sure, if you consider the desire of incumbent businesses to lock out competition and artificially inflate their profits to be a "problem".