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How simple is Sandstorm to run? I want to use something like sandstorm, but i want stupidly simple deployments, even if at the cost of features. Eg, my killer "

How simple is Sandstorm to run? I want to use something like sandstorm, but i want stupidly simple deployments, even if at the cost of features. Eg, my killer "sandstorm" like feature would be a single binary, or perhaps 1 binary per service type, that i run with no auth, not exposed to public, a single backup dir, no config, etc. I want low maintenance from the user side. How much does Sandstorm fit this? Also, as a side note i feel quite sad for Sandstorm. It's a difficult concept to monetize even if for continued development. Ie, even if i can be convinced that this will be "easy enough" to use, i'd be hard pressed to pay for a service.. i want to keep it on my network, that's the point to me. I'd have to donate, i suppose. Which is unfortunate. Perhaps they could offer an encrypted backup solution? Eg, i want to self host, but they could easily store an encrypted and versioned backup of my entire sandstorm db? I'd pay for that! I'm doing that from someone anyway, why not sandstorm.io?

kentonv 10y ago
> How simple is Sandstorm to run? Extremely so. Installation is via an interactive process (no config files) and optionally automatically provisions DNS and TLS certificates for you (if you choose a hostname under sandcats.io). Once installed, Sandstorm auto-updates without any intervention. Apps are installed as easily as installing apps on your phone, and also auto-update. The system is intended to be feasible for non-technical people to manage. I suggest trying it out. :) https://sandstorm.io/install https://sandstorm.io/install
- notheguyouthink 10y ago
  Do you have any plans to monetize users like me? Eg, i want to run it at home behind a firewall. I'd love to purchase something, but not at the cost of privacy/etc. How do i fit in your long term goals?
  - kentonv 10y ago
    Well, we had a product called "Sandstorm for Work" which was self-hosted and which people could pay for, and a lot of people said they'd love to pay for it, but very few people ever did. :/ So now we've removed the paywall and the Sandstorm for Work premium features are available in all self-hosted Sandstorm servers for free. If you'd like to help the project monetarily, you can sign up for an Oasis account, even if you intend to primarily use Sandstorm self-hosted. That said, at present, we've stopped worrying about monetization and are only worried about making the platform better and getting more users. Simply installing a server and using it helps us! The more users we have, the more interest there will be from developers, and vice-versa.
    - notheguyouthink 10y ago
      Sounds good, really appreciate your time on this! I'll give this a try this weekend :)
- skybrian 10y ago
  One thing that might help a little: instead of punting on the hosting ("your favorite cloud provider") link to a page making some specific recommendations. (Technically I'm sure nearly all of them would work, but you still need to choose between them, which means putting on your sysadmin hat for a bit.)

kentonv 10y ago

> How simple is Sandstorm to run? Extremely so. Installation is via an interactive process (no config files) and optionally automatically provisions DNS and TLS certificates for you (if you choose a hostname under sandcats.io). Once installed, Sandstorm auto-updates without any intervention. Apps are installed as easily as installing apps on your phone, and also auto-update. The system is intended to be feasible for non-technical people to manage. I suggest trying it out. :) https://sandstorm.io/install https://sandstorm.io/install

notheguyouthink 10y ago
Do you have any plans to monetize users like me? Eg, i want to run it at home behind a firewall. I'd love to purchase something, but not at the cost of privacy/etc. How do i fit in your long term goals?
- kentonv 10y ago
  Well, we had a product called "Sandstorm for Work" which was self-hosted and which people could pay for, and a lot of people said they'd love to pay for it, but very few people ever did. :/ So now we've removed the paywall and the Sandstorm for Work premium features are available in all self-hosted Sandstorm servers for free. If you'd like to help the project monetarily, you can sign up for an Oasis account, even if you intend to primarily use Sandstorm self-hosted. That said, at present, we've stopped worrying about monetization and are only worried about making the platform better and getting more users. Simply installing a server and using it helps us! The more users we have, the more interest there will be from developers, and vice-versa.
  - notheguyouthink 10y ago
    Sounds good, really appreciate your time on this! I'll give this a try this weekend :)
skybrian 10y ago
One thing that might help a little: instead of punting on the hosting ("your favorite cloud provider") link to a page making some specific recommendations. (Technically I'm sure nearly all of them would work, but you still need to choose between them, which means putting on your sysadmin hat for a bit.)