4 ms·

I think that's a big win. With React, you can see the use for functional concepts without having to switch to a functional programming language, or completely d

I think that's a big win. With React, you can see the use for functional concepts without having to switch to a functional programming language, or completely divest your codebase of 'friendly' object oriented techniques like class structure and subclassing. Similarly, I'd give a shout to MobX for showing me how observables can be used in practice. For the longest time I'd wanted to learn it, but I'd choke on the syntax and the generality of common libraries. Showing how MobX worked to simplify React code, gave an instant sense of success and things clicked afterwards.

jiyinyiyong 10y ago
MobX makes React simple because it's JavaScript. If you've write React with ClojureScript, you will find out that ClojureScript simplified React too. And people may also say ClojureScript is the magic piece that make React great.
- true_religion 10y ago
  How would ClojureScript help here?
  - jiyinyiyong 10y ago
    I'm saying MobX is not the final answer for React. Behind React is the theory of uni-directional data flow. Observable in MobX looks nice and it fixes uni-directional data flow in JavaScript syntax of assignments. Seeing from ClojureScript and other languages that implemented persistent data structure by default, MobX is just a tricky solution designed for JavaScript. And ClojureScript handle uni-directional data flow well too with persistent data and atom type.
    - true_religion 10y ago
      Ah I see. I wasn't saying it is the final answer. It's just a 'good thing' because without it I wouldn't have learned observables to the depth that I did. It's a start... because it brings the concept to Javascript, a language that I'm already familiar with and have a build chain for. If one is going to switch languages, then you can consider the whole sweep of compile-to-JS languages. Elm is pretty nice in that scenario, and pairs well with my use of Elixir on the backend.
      - jiyinyiyong 10y ago
        Yeah, agreed.

jiyinyiyong 10y ago

MobX makes React simple because it's JavaScript. If you've write React with ClojureScript, you will find out that ClojureScript simplified React too. And people may also say ClojureScript is the magic piece that make React great.

true_religion 10y ago
How would ClojureScript help here?
- jiyinyiyong 10y ago
  I'm saying MobX is not the final answer for React. Behind React is the theory of uni-directional data flow. Observable in MobX looks nice and it fixes uni-directional data flow in JavaScript syntax of assignments. Seeing from ClojureScript and other languages that implemented persistent data structure by default, MobX is just a tricky solution designed for JavaScript. And ClojureScript handle uni-directional data flow well too with persistent data and atom type.
  - true_religion 10y ago
    Ah I see. I wasn't saying it is the final answer. It's just a 'good thing' because without it I wouldn't have learned observables to the depth that I did. It's a start... because it brings the concept to Javascript, a language that I'm already familiar with and have a build chain for. If one is going to switch languages, then you can consider the whole sweep of compile-to-JS languages. Elm is pretty nice in that scenario, and pairs well with my use of Elixir on the backend.
    - jiyinyiyong 10y ago
      Yeah, agreed.