the "stateless" bit precludes a whole bunch of use cases, for example databases as per the post. For me the issue with containers is that they don't feel very "

the "stateless" bit precludes a whole bunch of use cases, for example databases as per the post. For me the issue with containers is that they don't feel very "contained" when you have files ("images") all over the shop that don't get eliminated easily, or when attached volumes have storage in some location, and compose files elsewhere, and having to inject all sorts of environment variables. In other words, files and details scattered around everywhere. It's not nearly as clean as a VM, even though I do get it that for scaling tons of identical web servers, for example, they would be great.