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I followed the development of perl 6 for a bit. I was quite impressed for a while, as Larry Wall disolved most of the warts, corner cases, and ad-hocisms of per

by ajb 10y ago

I followed the development of perl 6 for a bit. I was quite impressed for a while, as Larry Wall disolved most of the warts, corner cases, and ad-hocisms of perl 5 into a language which was cleaner and more abstract. Then he used the cognitive space thus provided to load up the langauge with as many features as he could pack in, and I gave up on it.

logicallee 10y ago
>I followed the development of perl 6 for a bit. To put it mildly.
- CodeWriter23 10y ago
  I petitioned Ars Technica 3 times to add Perl 6 to their Top 10 Vaporware list. I think, being a Perl shop at the time, they allowed personal bias to drive their ruling.
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- b3h3moth 10y ago
  :-) "In the 20th century I followed the development of perl 6"
  - labster 10y ago
    The mug hit the wall on 2000-07-18, which means there was less than 5 months of Perl 6 history in the 20th century. Apocalypse 1 didn't even come out until 2001.
raiph 10y ago
> as many features as he could pack in Aiui there's some merit to the notion of The Lisp Curse[1] and he wanted to avoid it. Do you reject the notion of the curse, or think it doesn't apply to P6, or think he overdid it, or...? Do you recall any specific features you felt went over the top? [1] eg https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2450973 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2450973
- cestith 10y ago
  There's also a bit of fear of The Forth Curse. For those not familiar, The Forth Curse is what happens when you make a language trivially easy to extend but don't write a large enough standard library of functions or procedures for it. Then your extensible language indeed gets easily extended at every site where it's used. The problem is that it's extended slightly differently in each place to do quite common things slightly differently and in wildly incompatible ways.
  - segmondy 10y ago
    Oh, I thought that was the Prolog curse.

by ajb 10y ago

logicallee 10y ago

>I followed the development of perl 6 for a bit. To put it mildly.

CodeWriter23 10y ago
I petitioned Ars Technica 3 times to add Perl 6 to their Top 10 Vaporware list. I think, being a Perl shop at the time, they allowed personal bias to drive their ruling.
- deleted 10y ago
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b3h3moth 10y ago
:-) "In the 20th century I followed the development of perl 6"
- labster 10y ago
  The mug hit the wall on 2000-07-18, which means there was less than 5 months of Perl 6 history in the 20th century. Apocalypse 1 didn't even come out until 2001.

raiph 10y ago

> as many features as he could pack in Aiui there's some merit to the notion of The Lisp Curse[1] and he wanted to avoid it. Do you reject the notion of the curse, or think it doesn't apply to P6, or think he overdid it, or...? Do you recall any specific features you felt went over the top? [1] eg https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2450973 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2450973

cestith 10y ago
There's also a bit of fear of The Forth Curse. For those not familiar, The Forth Curse is what happens when you make a language trivially easy to extend but don't write a large enough standard library of functions or procedures for it. Then your extensible language indeed gets easily extended at every site where it's used. The problem is that it's extended slightly differently in each place to do quite common things slightly differently and in wildly incompatible ways.
- segmondy 10y ago
  Oh, I thought that was the Prolog curse.