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I don't want to dismiss the other, much larger, concerns people have with this executive order, but I want to highlight another aspect. It further reduces the

by Jabbles 10y ago

I don't want to dismiss the other, much larger, concerns people have with this executive order, but I want to highlight another aspect. It further reduces the possibility of tourism to these 7 countries, due to the knowledge that if I want to go to the US, I face a much more invasive immigration check (see Norway PM), and the possibility of denied entry, which carries a lasting stigma. Clearly tourism in Syria is not an option at the moment, but the more adventurous European could certainly want to visit Iran. And of course it was true that immigration officers could have asked about those trips before this order. Nevertheless, I feel that my choices of holiday have been affected by this order. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-33648096 http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-33648096 https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/03/former-norway-pm-bondevik-held-washington-dulles-airport-2014-visit-iran https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/feb/03/former-norwa...

Xylakant 10y ago
It's quite well possible to visit Iran from Europe. My father, who's only moderately adventurous, went last year with a guided bus tour all the way through Turkey (before the latest coup). He absolutely recommended the trip.
ninjaroar 10y ago
As a Canadian, i've actually never thought of Iran as any more 'adventurous' of a place to visit than somewhere like Peru or India or Cambodia. Lots of mainstream adventure tourism companies have tours there (e.g.: G adventures, exodus, etc) It has a reputation of being a very friendly place full of hospitable people. It's always been on my 'bucket list' of places to visit one day. However, if a visit means i'll get grilled more than usual every time I visit the US, then I'll likely refrain from visiting. So, yes, the order will reduce tourism.
- chimeracoder 10y ago
  The US explicitly allows people to get a second passport to allow them to visit countries without facing this issue. For example, if you want to visit Lebabon, you can get a second passport if you later want to visit Israel. I don't know if Canada or other countries do the same thing.

by Jabbles 10y ago

Xylakant 10y ago

It's quite well possible to visit Iran from Europe. My father, who's only moderately adventurous, went last year with a guided bus tour all the way through Turkey (before the latest coup). He absolutely recommended the trip.

ninjaroar 10y ago

As a Canadian, i've actually never thought of Iran as any more 'adventurous' of a place to visit than somewhere like Peru or India or Cambodia. Lots of mainstream adventure tourism companies have tours there (e.g.: G adventures, exodus, etc) It has a reputation of being a very friendly place full of hospitable people. It's always been on my 'bucket list' of places to visit one day. However, if a visit means i'll get grilled more than usual every time I visit the US, then I'll likely refrain from visiting. So, yes, the order will reduce tourism.

chimeracoder 10y ago
The US explicitly allows people to get a second passport to allow them to visit countries without facing this issue. For example, if you want to visit Lebabon, you can get a second passport if you later want to visit Israel. I don't know if Canada or other countries do the same thing.