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Interestingly missing: Tesla, SolarCity, and SpaceX

by techman9 10y ago

throwaway287391 10y ago
Makes sense as Elon is a Trump advisor. Also interestingly missing: Amazon.
- techman9 10y ago
  They already filed a declaration in the original motion for a TRO. http://agportal-s3bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/uploadedfiles/Another/News/Press_Releases/Declaration%20of%20Ayesha%20Blackwell-Hawkins.pdf http://agportal-s3bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/uploadedfiles/Anot...
- wonnage 10y ago
  i believe amazon and expedia were part of the suit https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/02/yet-another-judge-rules-against-trumps-immigration-ban/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/02/yet-another-judg...
- mschuster91 10y ago
  I believe Elon Musk is playing (once again) the ultra-long game. He is betting that the court system as well as Congress will limit Donald Trump and his cronies from doing something that is grounds for impeachment - and so Donald Trump will be in office for the entire term. Given this, it makes sense to be in a position that has at least a tiny bit of influence on Trump. Amazon has a similar position: they need large amounts of (immigrant) labor for their warehouses, but also are extremely dependent on free trade, especially import tariffs. So, they're likely afraid of openly defying Donald Trump, because they fear that Trump could retaliate against them. The other companies which are on the list (except Apple!) are a hard target for Trump as they do not depend on overseas goods import and thus cannot be hit by import tariffs - the only way to hit them is by deporting the foreign workers they already have, and the courts have shown they won't let pass deportations of legal immigrants. So, for these companies it's relatively easy to sign.
  - justinv 10y ago
    Amazon was one of the first to file their brief - in the original lawsuit. Bezos has no problem rocking the boat & actually wrote one of the stronger worded condemnations in the industry.
    - sremani 10y ago
      Bezos has been trolling trump using what used to be a respectable publication called Washington Post for about 14 months now ?
      - celticninja 10y ago
        Trolling?
  - snotrockets 10y ago
    Musk might outsmart us all, but by going down to that crossroads in Clarksdale, he does not, and will not, outmoral a slug.
    - baq 10y ago
      Morality is like an ass - everybody has their own. Musk wants to see a self sustaining, fossil fuel free civilisation, and a backup off site. I'm not saying it's morally right, in fact it might be straight out of Machiavelli ideas, but you are right in that it's a long position.
      - TorKlingberg 10y ago
        Morality, stripped of religious connotations, is just about what is good and bad. If you think fossil fuel independence and Mars colonization are good things, those are moral statements.
        baq 10y ago
        I agree completely. I'm just saying that everyone has his own ideas of what is good or bad (or evil for that matter). One person's good may be the other's bad.
qzervaas 10y ago
No Yahoo either.
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Interestingly missing: Tesla, SolarCity, and SpaceX

throwaway287391 10y ago

Makes sense as Elon is a Trump advisor. Also interestingly missing: Amazon.

techman9 10y ago
They already filed a declaration in the original motion for a TRO. http://agportal-s3bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/uploadedfiles/Another/News/Press_Releases/Declaration%20of%20Ayesha%20Blackwell-Hawkins.pdf http://agportal-s3bucket.s3.amazonaws.com/uploadedfiles/Anot...
wonnage 10y ago
i believe amazon and expedia were part of the suit https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/02/yet-another-judge-rules-against-trumps-immigration-ban/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/02/yet-another-judg...
mschuster91 10y ago
I believe Elon Musk is playing (once again) the ultra-long game. He is betting that the court system as well as Congress will limit Donald Trump and his cronies from doing something that is grounds for impeachment - and so Donald Trump will be in office for the entire term. Given this, it makes sense to be in a position that has at least a tiny bit of influence on Trump. Amazon has a similar position: they need large amounts of (immigrant) labor for their warehouses, but also are extremely dependent on free trade, especially import tariffs. So, they're likely afraid of openly defying Donald Trump, because they fear that Trump could retaliate against them. The other companies which are on the list (except Apple!) are a hard target for Trump as they do not depend on overseas goods import and thus cannot be hit by import tariffs - the only way to hit them is by deporting the foreign workers they already have, and the courts have shown they won't let pass deportations of legal immigrants. So, for these companies it's relatively easy to sign.
- justinv 10y ago
  Amazon was one of the first to file their brief - in the original lawsuit. Bezos has no problem rocking the boat & actually wrote one of the stronger worded condemnations in the industry.
  - sremani 10y ago
    Bezos has been trolling trump using what used to be a respectable publication called Washington Post for about 14 months now ?
    - celticninja 10y ago
      Trolling?
- snotrockets 10y ago
  Musk might outsmart us all, but by going down to that crossroads in Clarksdale, he does not, and will not, outmoral a slug.
  - baq 10y ago
    Morality is like an ass - everybody has their own. Musk wants to see a self sustaining, fossil fuel free civilisation, and a backup off site. I'm not saying it's morally right, in fact it might be straight out of Machiavelli ideas, but you are right in that it's a long position.
    - TorKlingberg 10y ago
      Morality, stripped of religious connotations, is just about what is good and bad. If you think fossil fuel independence and Mars colonization are good things, those are moral statements.
      - baq 10y ago
        I agree completely. I'm just saying that everyone has his own ideas of what is good or bad (or evil for that matter). One person's good may be the other's bad.

qzervaas 10y ago

No Yahoo either.

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