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I think it's funny that people complain that the H1B visa program are "shipping jobs abroad" when by being a visa program, the whole point is to allow people to

I think it's funny that people complain that the H1B visa program are "shipping jobs abroad" when by being a visa program, the whole point is to allow people to work in the US. No one is going through all the trouble to enter a 10% lottery to "ship jobs abroad" when actually shipping jobs abroad requorws no visa, and requires no minimum 60k payment. Now, this doesn't mean there aren't problems with the H1B program. By making workers so dependent on their employers (for example, if an H1B visa holder gets laid off or fired they have to leave the country immediately without legally having the opportunity to find a new job) it most likely drives down wages slightly, but the "sending jobs abroad" rhetoric is little more than xenophobic sloganeering which only serves to distract people from the actual problems related to the H1B (the power differential between the employers and the employees, and the ridiculousness of a lottery system which benefits those who can flood the system with applications as opposed to actual companies that need good workers).

Clubber 10y ago
By shipping jobs abroad, I believe most people think they are taking jobs held by US nationals and giving then to foreign nationals, regardless of where they fill a seat.
- cr1895 10y ago
  >regardless of where they fill a seat But this seat-filling is important. A person who is hired for a job shipped abroad is not living in the US, paying taxes in the US, buying groceries, spending money, etc etc. A non-American brought into the US is participating and contributing to the economy just as any American worker is.
jeremyjh 10y ago
Local employees are part of the equation. The body shops like Infosys and Tata always have onsite workers who interact with the client and then use their offshore teams to perform the work. Many clients are not capable of using offshore resources in any other model due to time zone and language barriers. The onsite typically works around two hours a night beginning at 10 PM to resolve all the questions and issues from offshore.

Clubber 10y ago

By shipping jobs abroad, I believe most people think they are taking jobs held by US nationals and giving then to foreign nationals, regardless of where they fill a seat.

cr1895 10y ago
>regardless of where they fill a seat But this seat-filling is important. A person who is hired for a job shipped abroad is not living in the US, paying taxes in the US, buying groceries, spending money, etc etc. A non-American brought into the US is participating and contributing to the economy just as any American worker is.

jeremyjh 10y ago

Local employees are part of the equation. The body shops like Infosys and Tata always have onsite workers who interact with the client and then use their offshore teams to perform the work. Many clients are not capable of using offshore resources in any other model due to time zone and language barriers. The onsite typically works around two hours a night beginning at 10 PM to resolve all the questions and issues from offshore.