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Do you have any examples where C++ has been used as a systems programming language? I thought C held that role.

by comatose_kid 19y ago

tubby 19y ago
BeOS was C++
- allenbrunson 19y ago
  not the kernel! it was very strictly C-only, no C++ allowed. the application frameworks were in C++, but that's not really the "operating system." and i'm in a position to know. i actually worked at Be for awhile.
mellampudi 19y ago
Symbian os is coded in c++
- huhtenberg 19y ago
  Another example is (was ?) NuMega's DriverStudio framework for developing Windows drivers in C++. Both examples are more of an exception rather than a rule though. Here's a lovely discussion from few years back: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/27/2110228 http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/27/21102...
- comatose_kid 19y ago
  I didn't know that - thanks.
elq 19y ago
oddly enough, a good chunk of OS/400 was written in C++ - http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=226239.226253&coll=GUIDE&dl=GUIDE&CFID=1449658&CFTOKEN=52103164 http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=226239.226253&coll...
scott_s 19y ago
Much of the examples on Stroustrup's page qualify as systems code: http://www.research.att.com/~bs/applications.html http://www.research.att.com/~bs/applications.html. A high profile, recent example is Google's MapReduce: http://labs.google.com/papers/mapreduce.html http://labs.google.com/papers/mapreduce.html.
- huhtenberg 19y ago
  Actually, they don't. Neither the MapReduce nor nearly all items on Stroustrup's list fall under conventional definition of the "system programming". It is an established term that does not mean programming of a system. It is rather a synonym of the "OS development". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_programming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_programming
  - scott_s 19y ago
    I include it to mean support software that sits between the OS and applications, like a runtime system or a memory allocator. Much of that code (and MapReduce) qualify.

Do you have any examples where C++ has been used as a systems programming language? I thought C held that role.

tubby 19y ago

BeOS was C++

allenbrunson 19y ago
not the kernel! it was very strictly C-only, no C++ allowed. the application frameworks were in C++, but that's not really the "operating system." and i'm in a position to know. i actually worked at Be for awhile.

mellampudi 19y ago

Symbian os is coded in c++

huhtenberg 19y ago
Another example is (was ?) NuMega's DriverStudio framework for developing Windows drivers in C++. Both examples are more of an exception rather than a rule though. Here's a lovely discussion from few years back: http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/27/2110228 http://developers.slashdot.org/article.pl?sid=04/10/27/21102...
comatose_kid 19y ago
I didn't know that - thanks.

elq 19y ago

oddly enough, a good chunk of OS/400 was written in C++ - http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=226239.226253&coll=GUIDE&dl=GUIDE&CFID=1449658&CFTOKEN=52103164 http://portal.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=226239.226253&coll...

scott_s 19y ago

Much of the examples on Stroustrup's page qualify as systems code: http://www.research.att.com/~bs/applications.html http://www.research.att.com/~bs/applications.html. A high profile, recent example is Google's MapReduce: http://labs.google.com/papers/mapreduce.html http://labs.google.com/papers/mapreduce.html.

huhtenberg 19y ago
Actually, they don't. Neither the MapReduce nor nearly all items on Stroustrup's list fall under conventional definition of the "system programming". It is an established term that does not mean programming of a system. It is rather a synonym of the "OS development". http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_programming http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Systems_programming
- scott_s 19y ago
  I include it to mean support software that sits between the OS and applications, like a runtime system or a memory allocator. Much of that code (and MapReduce) qualify.