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You don't buy that education forces you to consider things outside yourself and your tribe? Even after you say you used to believe it, but as you've left educa

You don't buy that education forces you to consider things outside yourself and your tribe? Even after you say you used to believe it, but as you've left education, it speaks to you less and less?

Inconel 10y ago
I'm not the poster you're responding to, and I never had the determination or opportunity to attend college so I have no direct experience with it, but does a traditional college education really force you to consider those things? I assume by education you mean college education. I know plenty of college educated people, many from extremely prestigious universities, and while they are both bright and I believe good people, most of them don't have much experience or perspective outside of what its like to be a middle/upper class American. Just to be clear, seeing as I have no actual experience with college, I'm not dismissing your assertion, just comparing it to my experience with college educated people.
guitarbill 10y ago
Yeah. At college, people are either left or pretend to be cause it's better than constantly looked down uppon. And the alure of the left is that you think your policies are helping most people or the people who need it the most. Well meaning but well off leftists can come up with some terribly misguided thinking. It's too easy to live in a bubble, and the world isn't black and white. To put it in programming terms, you have to go speak to your customers to know their use-cases, even unintentional ones. Otherwise, you might implement the wrong features.
- bobdole1234 10y ago
  I find the differences between the left and right are that the right tends to tell what everyone else to change in order to fit in the with the group. Whereas the left tends to ask the group to accept the differences in outsiders they work with. This fits better with the reality of working with a large group of people from all over the world for short projects, you often don't have the time or political ability to make your collaborators conform, so you expect your group to make do.
  - Chris2048 10y ago
    Interesting that you say the right "tells", where as the left "ask". What do you base that on? > accept the differences in outsiders they work with unless you are a conservative in a mainly left environment, where goes tolerance then?

You don't buy that education forces you to consider things outside yourself and your tribe? Even after you say you used to believe it, but as you've left education, it speaks to you less and less?

Inconel 10y ago

I'm not the poster you're responding to, and I never had the determination or opportunity to attend college so I have no direct experience with it, but does a traditional college education really force you to consider those things? I assume by education you mean college education. I know plenty of college educated people, many from extremely prestigious universities, and while they are both bright and I believe good people, most of them don't have much experience or perspective outside of what its like to be a middle/upper class American. Just to be clear, seeing as I have no actual experience with college, I'm not dismissing your assertion, just comparing it to my experience with college educated people.

guitarbill 10y ago

Yeah. At college, people are either left or pretend to be cause it's better than constantly looked down uppon. And the alure of the left is that you think your policies are helping most people or the people who need it the most. Well meaning but well off leftists can come up with some terribly misguided thinking. It's too easy to live in a bubble, and the world isn't black and white. To put it in programming terms, you have to go speak to your customers to know their use-cases, even unintentional ones. Otherwise, you might implement the wrong features.

bobdole1234 10y ago
I find the differences between the left and right are that the right tends to tell what everyone else to change in order to fit in the with the group. Whereas the left tends to ask the group to accept the differences in outsiders they work with. This fits better with the reality of working with a large group of people from all over the world for short projects, you often don't have the time or political ability to make your collaborators conform, so you expect your group to make do.
- Chris2048 10y ago
  Interesting that you say the right "tells", where as the left "ask". What do you base that on? > accept the differences in outsiders they work with unless you are a conservative in a mainly left environment, where goes tolerance then?