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Those are wide enough for a shopping cart and a person next to it, so one can pass the line decently fine. And if people see someone who isn't buying anything,

by Merem 10y ago

Those are wide enough for a shopping cart and a person next to it, so one can pass the line decently fine. And if people see someone who isn't buying anything, they even make sure not to block him/her. The OP later said in a different post that it was "very narrow". I've never seen a supermarket like that before but then again, "Allkauf" stopped existing like 20 years ago and who knows how long before that he went there. The entry is clearly marked though and it is obvious that it doesn't double as an exit. So arguing that it's different in 99% of the world doesn't score a point.

coldtea 10y ago
>Those are wide enough for a shopping cart and a person next to it, so one can pass the line decently fine. Doesn't look like we use the same definition of "wide enough": http://c8.alamy.com/comp/CRCY5X/people-at-the-checkout-in-a-lidl-supermarket-CRCY5X.jpg http://c8.alamy.com/comp/CRCY5X/people-at-the-checkout-in-a-... But even so, why "pass the line"? That's what's usually frowned upon in the rest of the world, not getting out without passing through the cashier line if you haven't bought anything. >The entry is clearly marked though and it is obvious that it doesn't double as an exit. So arguing that it's different in 99% of the world doesn't score a point. It's probably more about "you're doing it wrong", get on with the rest of the world.
- Merem 10y ago
  The perspective in that picture isn't exactly a good one. But there should be enough space to pass by them on the right side. This one is good and shows what I mean with "shopping cart + person". http://www.lebensmittelzeitung.net/gallery/media/156/4733-detailp.jpeg http://www.lebensmittelzeitung.net/gallery/media/156/4733-de... Is it? It's a line that's not relevant to you (it's for paying, not for getting out), so I don't see why one shouldn't just pass it?
  - tyingq 10y ago
    There are setups where there isn't room, I promise. The one I saw there wasn't the first or last one I had seen. For example: http://www.supermarketnews.com/sites/supermarketnews.com/files/styles/article_featured_standard/public/uploads/2016/01/checlane595.jpg http://www.supermarketnews.com/sites/supermarketnews.com/fil... Note the width of the cart vs the width of the aisle. Imagine a longer line where everyone has a cart. This happens to be an Aldi, a German owned chain that operates in the US. Usually, there's some alternate exit, this time there wasn't.
    - Merem 10y ago
      To be fair, those don't really count as they are built to serve American customers. The cashier, for example, would never put what you bought into your cart. (Heck, I wouldn't even allow it, just look at how messy it is.) That's why there is space behind the checkout. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hkXxvHAFttQ/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hkXxvHAFttQ/maxresdefault.jpg And looking at your picture, the space becomes more narrow at the checkout. I have no idea why they would need that much space - there is a lot of room between her and the barcode scanner.
      - tyingq 10y ago
        You are basically saying that I am lying about the experience, so I posted a picture to show that this situation does exist. I don't have pictures of the actual store...This was quite some time ago. The lanes were not much wider than the carts. If they were wider, I would have left that way.
        Merem 10y ago
        That's not the case. I pointed out your specific picture is of an American store and therefore doesn't hold an value, despite it being a German chain (which you pointed to). I certainly don't doubt that some supermarkets are built in the way you are describing (with the checkout being like that) but I personally haven't seen one yet.
tyingq 10y ago
I had never encountered this setup before either. Hence my unusual solution.
- Merem 10y ago
  If I had witnessed that, I'm sure I would have had a smile on my face, considering only children would do something like that. Even as a shoplifter, you would use one of the lines. But hey, at least your solution worked. Too bad about the disapproving looks though (depending on your age, maybe they thought you were some kind of delinquent).
  - coldtea 10y ago
    >If I had witnessed that, I'm sure I would have had a smile on my face, considering only children would do something like that. Only children and people accustomed to how stores in most of the world work. "Pardon him. Theodotus: he is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature."
    - Merem 10y ago
      You are taking this way too seriously. I also doubt that "people accustomed to how stores in most of the world work" would all jump over the turnstyle, despite it being clearly not an exit. Especially the jumping (or climbing) part is one I really only see kids doing as they like to exercise since they are often full of energy.
      - tyingq 10y ago
        I said jumping, because that's the common vernacular for bypassing a turnstyle. In reality, it's more like sitting on it and swinging your legs over. You might be surprised at the number of people that will bypass intentional barriers when the overall layout is stupid. The internal dialogue is something like "me doing this is less stupid than whoever decided this setup made sense".

by Merem 10y ago

coldtea 10y ago

>Those are wide enough for a shopping cart and a person next to it, so one can pass the line decently fine. Doesn't look like we use the same definition of "wide enough": http://c8.alamy.com/comp/CRCY5X/people-at-the-checkout-in-a-lidl-supermarket-CRCY5X.jpg http://c8.alamy.com/comp/CRCY5X/people-at-the-checkout-in-a-... But even so, why "pass the line"? That's what's usually frowned upon in the rest of the world, not getting out without passing through the cashier line if you haven't bought anything. >The entry is clearly marked though and it is obvious that it doesn't double as an exit. So arguing that it's different in 99% of the world doesn't score a point. It's probably more about "you're doing it wrong", get on with the rest of the world.

Merem 10y ago
The perspective in that picture isn't exactly a good one. But there should be enough space to pass by them on the right side. This one is good and shows what I mean with "shopping cart + person". http://www.lebensmittelzeitung.net/gallery/media/156/4733-detailp.jpeg http://www.lebensmittelzeitung.net/gallery/media/156/4733-de... Is it? It's a line that's not relevant to you (it's for paying, not for getting out), so I don't see why one shouldn't just pass it?
- tyingq 10y ago
  There are setups where there isn't room, I promise. The one I saw there wasn't the first or last one I had seen. For example: http://www.supermarketnews.com/sites/supermarketnews.com/files/styles/article_featured_standard/public/uploads/2016/01/checlane595.jpg http://www.supermarketnews.com/sites/supermarketnews.com/fil... Note the width of the cart vs the width of the aisle. Imagine a longer line where everyone has a cart. This happens to be an Aldi, a German owned chain that operates in the US. Usually, there's some alternate exit, this time there wasn't.
  - Merem 10y ago
    To be fair, those don't really count as they are built to serve American customers. The cashier, for example, would never put what you bought into your cart. (Heck, I wouldn't even allow it, just look at how messy it is.) That's why there is space behind the checkout. https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hkXxvHAFttQ/maxresdefault.jpg https://i.ytimg.com/vi/hkXxvHAFttQ/maxresdefault.jpg And looking at your picture, the space becomes more narrow at the checkout. I have no idea why they would need that much space - there is a lot of room between her and the barcode scanner.
    - tyingq 10y ago
      You are basically saying that I am lying about the experience, so I posted a picture to show that this situation does exist. I don't have pictures of the actual store...This was quite some time ago. The lanes were not much wider than the carts. If they were wider, I would have left that way.
      - Merem 10y ago
        That's not the case. I pointed out your specific picture is of an American store and therefore doesn't hold an value, despite it being a German chain (which you pointed to). I certainly don't doubt that some supermarkets are built in the way you are describing (with the checkout being like that) but I personally haven't seen one yet.

tyingq 10y ago

I had never encountered this setup before either. Hence my unusual solution.

Merem 10y ago
If I had witnessed that, I'm sure I would have had a smile on my face, considering only children would do something like that. Even as a shoplifter, you would use one of the lines. But hey, at least your solution worked. Too bad about the disapproving looks though (depending on your age, maybe they thought you were some kind of delinquent).
- coldtea 10y ago
  >If I had witnessed that, I'm sure I would have had a smile on my face, considering only children would do something like that. Only children and people accustomed to how stores in most of the world work. "Pardon him. Theodotus: he is a barbarian, and thinks that the customs of his tribe and island are the laws of nature."
  - Merem 10y ago
    You are taking this way too seriously. I also doubt that "people accustomed to how stores in most of the world work" would all jump over the turnstyle, despite it being clearly not an exit. Especially the jumping (or climbing) part is one I really only see kids doing as they like to exercise since they are often full of energy.
    - tyingq 10y ago
      I said jumping, because that's the common vernacular for bypassing a turnstyle. In reality, it's more like sitting on it and swinging your legs over. You might be surprised at the number of people that will bypass intentional barriers when the overall layout is stupid. The internal dialogue is something like "me doing this is less stupid than whoever decided this setup made sense".