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I agree with the sentiment, but have you actually tried doing that? It's considerably harder than it looks. The Facebook audience won't necessarily convert or
by thenomad 10y ago
I agree with the sentiment, but have you actually tried doing that?
It's considerably harder than it looks. The Facebook audience won't necessarily convert or translate off-site. They may well not join email lists, add you to an RSS reader, or come back to your site unless prompted by a Facebook post.
It's been my experience that often, audiences that will join a list and audiences that will Like a page are completely different. Some audiences are very hard to own a relationship with on an off-FB basis, but very lucrative ON Facebook.
On a risk/reward basis, it's often going to be a much better call to just keep on going with FB and accept the chance that your business randomly blows up.
None of this is to say that you shouldn't try that, or it'll never work, or it's a bad idea - but the "obvious" approach of "take 'em all off-site ASAP" is harder than it looks.
- swozey 10y agoI all but refuse to sign up or use any site that requires me to create a login at this point. I will absolutely never, ever sign up for another forum. My email every birthday is just filled with hundreds of emails from the various forums of hobbies/interests long since gone from my life. I'd consider going to a site if it had oauth via Google/FB. It's own login is a hard stop. And even at that point there's probably an 80% chance that I'll forget about that site after a week. If you're a content creator don't make it my job to find and keep current with your content.
- username223 10y agoI'm just the opposite. Throwaway logins are easy with a password manager, as are throwaway email addresses with Mailinator. If a site only allows logins via Google/FB, I'll go somewhere else. I'm also a "content creator," and while I syndicate some stuff to FB, everything I produce is hosted on my own VPS at my own domain. Giving FB/Medium/whatever total control over your work is insane.
- muninn_ 10y agoBut then Facebook/Google are tracking you, monetizing you, and own your log ins. Stop being lazy and just spend more time being picky about what you actually sign up for, or use a temporary email or an alias when you sign up for things. Also, if you're getting a bunch of emails, go unsubscribe from the sites sending you those emails, delete your account, or change the email address on the account to something that doesn't exist.
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- swozey 10y agoI was 100% referring to the UX that thenomad mentioned in getting users to move to other services for content ingestion. > Stop being lazy and just spend more time being picky about what you actually sign up for Wow. I'll be sure to travel into the past about 20 years and tell 12 year old swozey to not sign up for HondaCivics.com because you'll be out of that phase of your life when you're 17. You completely missed my point. I'm not going out of my way to ingest media on private platforms as opposed to ingesting that media on a couple of platforms that are aggregates that I already use. I'm not signing up for your personal video site when I can watch your videos on Youtube. I'm not downloading your personal music app to listen to your album when I can play it on Spotify. If your stuff isn't available on these platforms, or whatever major aggregate relates to your style of content; 99% chance I just won't partake in it.