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it should start with a list of companies that publicly state that their employees are allowed to protest, even if the company disagrees with them.

gcr 10y ago
Absolutely. When I go on the job market, I will absolutely bias my search toward employers that have a history of activism among the leaders of the country. (Example: Fog Creek Software with Anil Dash as CEO would be my absolute dream place to work.)
duncan-donuts 10y ago
It's pretty sad we're talking about companies publicly stating they allow employees to protest. What business is it of the company?
- r00fus 10y ago
  They'd be saying they're not interfering with their employees rights. I.e. Doing the right thing.
  - ihsw 10y ago
    You don't have the right to be a criminal without consequence.
mjolk 10y ago
You're suggesting a left-wing form of McCarthyism. I don't care if my employees/reports protest as long as they do their job and don't attempt political intimidation, but I am not willing to put my company on a list to satisfy a virtue-signaling busybody.
- tomjakubowski 10y ago
  Are you kidding? Promoting the recognition of an employee's first amendment rights now falls under "virtue signaling" and "McCarthyism"?
  - mjolk 10y ago
    Please re-read the parent comment: > it should start with a list of companies that publicly state that their employees are allowed to protest, even if the company disagrees with them. The part that is objectionable is the expectation that my company would need to register on a list stating that I respect the rights of my employees. Doing things within your legal rights is the _default_; I reject the act of playing into someone's political "are you with us?" game.
  - dsfyu404ed 10y ago
    It's sure a heck not a virtue any company in the defense sector wants to be signaling.
- legodt 10y ago
  Fellow commentors, please be aware that "virtue signalling" is a buzzword used by the alt-right to discredit activists or socially progressive people. This tactic is meant to dissuade the socially progressive from actively taking a role in enacting change.
  - mjolk 10y ago
    If you're trying to accuse me of something, I'd prefer you have the decency to do it directly and unequivocally.
  - tnone 10y ago
    No, signaling in this context is a term referring to conspicuous behavior meant to substitute a difficult to prove characteristic (e.g. being a principled person acting morally) with an easy to perform ritual (e.g. sharing opinions with like-minded followers on Twitter). Not everyone who dislikes this behavior is alt right, or rightwing at all. Stop focusing on the scape goat that's easy to dislike.

gcr 10y ago

Absolutely. When I go on the job market, I will absolutely bias my search toward employers that have a history of activism among the leaders of the country. (Example: Fog Creek Software with Anil Dash as CEO would be my absolute dream place to work.)

duncan-donuts 10y ago

It's pretty sad we're talking about companies publicly stating they allow employees to protest. What business is it of the company?

r00fus 10y ago
They'd be saying they're not interfering with their employees rights. I.e. Doing the right thing.
- ihsw 10y ago
  You don't have the right to be a criminal without consequence.

mjolk 10y ago

You're suggesting a left-wing form of McCarthyism. I don't care if my employees/reports protest as long as they do their job and don't attempt political intimidation, but I am not willing to put my company on a list to satisfy a virtue-signaling busybody.

tomjakubowski 10y ago
Are you kidding? Promoting the recognition of an employee's first amendment rights now falls under "virtue signaling" and "McCarthyism"?
- mjolk 10y ago
  Please re-read the parent comment: > it should start with a list of companies that publicly state that their employees are allowed to protest, even if the company disagrees with them. The part that is objectionable is the expectation that my company would need to register on a list stating that I respect the rights of my employees. Doing things within your legal rights is the _default_; I reject the act of playing into someone's political "are you with us?" game.
- dsfyu404ed 10y ago
  It's sure a heck not a virtue any company in the defense sector wants to be signaling.
legodt 10y ago
Fellow commentors, please be aware that "virtue signalling" is a buzzword used by the alt-right to discredit activists or socially progressive people. This tactic is meant to dissuade the socially progressive from actively taking a role in enacting change.
- mjolk 10y ago
  If you're trying to accuse me of something, I'd prefer you have the decency to do it directly and unequivocally.
- tnone 10y ago
  No, signaling in this context is a term referring to conspicuous behavior meant to substitute a difficult to prove characteristic (e.g. being a principled person acting morally) with an easy to perform ritual (e.g. sharing opinions with like-minded followers on Twitter). Not everyone who dislikes this behavior is alt right, or rightwing at all. Stop focusing on the scape goat that's easy to dislike.