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a) For what it's worth, the The_Donald subreddit doesn't brigade and the moderators do a lot of work to ensure that they're complying with Reddit rules. b) Hav

a) For what it's worth, the The_Donald subreddit doesn't brigade and the moderators do a lot of work to ensure that they're complying with Reddit rules. b) Having backups and an alternate hosting service is always very good advice, especially for Google's services where they use algorithms to shut down and ban people all of the time. c) It's not in Google or YouTube's DNA to provide actual decent human customer service. They don't even provide that for actual paying customers, let alone their free services! Sadly, I think YouTube laughs at your petition idea.

metaphorm 10y ago
re: a) prove it. even if the moderators try to enforce that, their tools are limited to actions the users do on reddit. brigading to a different website seems totally beyond the control of reddit mods.
popey456963 10y ago
> The_Donald subreddit doesn't brigade Let me point you in the direction of this quote: > The admins accused the_donald users of “brigading” or mass downvoting comments by r/politics moderators explaining why the posts were deleted and sending them threatening personal messages. Oh, look at this other post trying to stop The_Donald from brigading so much > Reddit announced this week that it would tweak the algorithm on r/all, a feed of popular posts across all the site’s subreddits, to stop certain communities from promoting large numbers of their own posts into the top of that feed. > “I cannot deny their [The_Donald] behavior hastened its deployment,” In response to The_Donald brigading several posts about Trump to the front page in a very short amount of time.
mintplant 10y ago
> For what it's worth, the The_Donald subreddit doesn't brigade and the moderators do a lot of work to ensure that they're complying with Reddit rules. r/The_Donald brigaded my university's subreddit en masse from a post the moderators there stickied to the top of the sub.
- adnzzzzZ 10y ago
  Trump supporters on reddit don't all come from /r/The_Donald. Unless you're willing to show specifics of how the brigading happened on that subreddit, most of the time when people make those claims it means: "my sub was suddenly full of people who agreed with Trump, so it must be the case that /r/The_Donald was behind it". Guess what, when protests in Berkeley happened it's not a surprise that /r/Berkeley is going to be full of people who sound like Trump supporters, for instance.
  - Pica_soO 10y ago
    Aye, mate - no true Scotsman, as far as the aYe can see. Good feeling, though, cause the other side didn't stay classy as well, thus we can all, trench in and drill to moral rock bottom. If only we had some tool, that no side would subvert, doctor, hijack and decry - like science and reasoning.
    - adnzzzzZ 10y ago
      What are you even talking about?
      - SyneRyder 10y ago
        It's a very convoluted reference to "No True Scotsman": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman ("no true Scotsman would do such a thing"; i.e., those who perform that action are not part of our group and thus criticism of that action is not criticism of the group).
  - mintplant 10y ago
    This was in relation to a small chalking incident that would have had no reason to attract attention outside of our school except that the r/The_Donald mods stickied it to the top of their subreddit. I skimmed through a few of the brigaders' histories to see where they were coming from and saw mostly r/The_Donald posts. Some had posted in the stickied thread before hopping over to our subreddit. Some had previously specified that they went to other universities, so had even less reason to be visiting the subreddit for ours. It's not as if we'd hit r/all or anything.
awalton 10y ago
> For what it's worth, the The_Donald subreddit doesn't brigade and the moderators do a lot of work to ensure that they're complying with Reddit rules. Lemme guess, if I respectfully disagree with you, I'll find all of my accounts blocked and my websites DDoSed into the ground? Because the evidence that this claim is wrong is beyond staggering... Keep your Alternative Facts to yourself please.
- paulddraper 10y ago
  I re-read your comment several times. Your beyond staggering evidence must have been removed, probably by pro-Donald Russian hackers.
  - awalton 10y ago
    Yeah, I don't reply with "proof" to people asking for "Proof!?!?" because I expect them to Google it, because people like you have become the single biggest scourge of the Internet. Reddit admins threaten r/The_Donald with a ban for brigading, reddit admins say "We've had to change our algorithms because of r/The_Donald's brigading and vote manipulation", and yet people like you still crawl out of the woodwork asking for "proof?" Show me proof you tried looking for evidence, and I'll hold your hand the rest of the way. Otherwise, http://bfy.tw/9tSv http://bfy.tw/9tSv .
    - DrScump 10y ago
      There is no reason to use URL shorteners on HN. People should be able to know what underlying site they would be sent to before clicking on it.

metaphorm 10y ago

re: a) prove it. even if the moderators try to enforce that, their tools are limited to actions the users do on reddit. brigading to a different website seems totally beyond the control of reddit mods.

popey456963 10y ago

> The_Donald subreddit doesn't brigade Let me point you in the direction of this quote: > The admins accused the_donald users of “brigading” or mass downvoting comments by r/politics moderators explaining why the posts were deleted and sending them threatening personal messages. Oh, look at this other post trying to stop The_Donald from brigading so much > Reddit announced this week that it would tweak the algorithm on r/all, a feed of popular posts across all the site’s subreddits, to stop certain communities from promoting large numbers of their own posts into the top of that feed. > “I cannot deny their [The_Donald] behavior hastened its deployment,” In response to The_Donald brigading several posts about Trump to the front page in a very short amount of time.

mintplant 10y ago

> For what it's worth, the The_Donald subreddit doesn't brigade and the moderators do a lot of work to ensure that they're complying with Reddit rules. r/The_Donald brigaded my university's subreddit en masse from a post the moderators there stickied to the top of the sub.

adnzzzzZ 10y ago
Trump supporters on reddit don't all come from /r/The_Donald. Unless you're willing to show specifics of how the brigading happened on that subreddit, most of the time when people make those claims it means: "my sub was suddenly full of people who agreed with Trump, so it must be the case that /r/The_Donald was behind it". Guess what, when protests in Berkeley happened it's not a surprise that /r/Berkeley is going to be full of people who sound like Trump supporters, for instance.
- Pica_soO 10y ago
  Aye, mate - no true Scotsman, as far as the aYe can see. Good feeling, though, cause the other side didn't stay classy as well, thus we can all, trench in and drill to moral rock bottom. If only we had some tool, that no side would subvert, doctor, hijack and decry - like science and reasoning.
  - adnzzzzZ 10y ago
    What are you even talking about?
    - SyneRyder 10y ago
      It's a very convoluted reference to "No True Scotsman": https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_true_Scotsman ("no true Scotsman would do such a thing"; i.e., those who perform that action are not part of our group and thus criticism of that action is not criticism of the group).
- mintplant 10y ago
  This was in relation to a small chalking incident that would have had no reason to attract attention outside of our school except that the r/The_Donald mods stickied it to the top of their subreddit. I skimmed through a few of the brigaders' histories to see where they were coming from and saw mostly r/The_Donald posts. Some had posted in the stickied thread before hopping over to our subreddit. Some had previously specified that they went to other universities, so had even less reason to be visiting the subreddit for ours. It's not as if we'd hit r/all or anything.

awalton 10y ago

> For what it's worth, the The_Donald subreddit doesn't brigade and the moderators do a lot of work to ensure that they're complying with Reddit rules. Lemme guess, if I respectfully disagree with you, I'll find all of my accounts blocked and my websites DDoSed into the ground? Because the evidence that this claim is wrong is beyond staggering... Keep your Alternative Facts to yourself please.

paulddraper 10y ago
I re-read your comment several times. Your beyond staggering evidence must have been removed, probably by pro-Donald Russian hackers.
- awalton 10y ago
  Yeah, I don't reply with "proof" to people asking for "Proof!?!?" because I expect them to Google it, because people like you have become the single biggest scourge of the Internet. Reddit admins threaten r/The_Donald with a ban for brigading, reddit admins say "We've had to change our algorithms because of r/The_Donald's brigading and vote manipulation", and yet people like you still crawl out of the woodwork asking for "proof?" Show me proof you tried looking for evidence, and I'll hold your hand the rest of the way. Otherwise, http://bfy.tw/9tSv http://bfy.tw/9tSv .
  - DrScump 10y ago
    There is no reason to use URL shorteners on HN. People should be able to know what underlying site they would be sent to before clicking on it.