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Well said. I have nothing but contempt and loathing for the advertising industry. I think they ruin everything. I also quit watching and listening to commercial

Well said. I have nothing but contempt and loathing for the advertising industry. I think they ruin everything. I also quit watching and listening to commercial broadcasters, and even quit working for one. I have a sister who is a successful advertising creative and executive. Our wildly differing and strong opinions on the topic makes for interesting family dinners. I am longing for the day that AR technology gets to the stage where lightweight sun-glass frames can have the ability to overlay classical art, or any other texture, over real-world ads in real-time. I have also been wondering lately if some sort of Adnix [0] like device could be developed using the incredible machine learning software that is becoming widely available. I know very little about such things but I have been meaning to make time to see if it is within my abilities. I'd love to scare my sister with it. [0] Adnix - http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=2223 http://www.technovelgy.com/ct/content.asp?Bnum=2223

humbledrone 10y ago
What do you think about the fact that the website you linked as a reference is ad-supported? Assuming that you use an ad-blocker, have you contributed money directly to the web site in compensation? It seems that you got some value from the web site. Is this consistent with "advertising ruins everything"? Without ads, do you think the web site would exist at all?
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- satori99 10y ago
  Maybe not, but it was the first result of many when I searched for "Adnix". It's not their content either. I did not compensate the site, and I don't feel bad about that at all. I did, however, pay Carl Sagan for it many years ago, when he first published Contact.
- TeMPOraL 10y ago
  > Without ads, do you think the web site would exist at all? Quite likely. This kind of content is something people tend to maintain out of their own interest in the subject and willingness to share. Ads are added more like as a "why not?" thing. Anyway, there are many ways to monetize that don't involve asking third parties to shove shit at your visitors.
- CaptSpify 10y ago
  Plenty of quality sites existed before advertisement flooded the internet. Plenty can exist without advertisements now as well.
kimburgess 10y ago
Not quite small and light weight but: http://jonathandub.in/cognizance/ http://jonathandub.in/cognizance/ Also if you would like your phone to replace them with art: http://noad-app.com http://noad-app.com
developer2 10y ago
>> I am longing for the day that AR technology gets to the stage where lightweight sun-glass frames can have the ability to overlay classical art, or any other texture, over real-world ads in real-time. Don't hold your breath. The disgusting industry of marketing/advertising will happily pay the AR companies irrefusable sums of cash to have their firmware prevent you from overlaying their ads. Or worse, the ads will be projected directly onto your lenses without even needing to look at the real world. Walled garden AR will win out over any open-source equivalent, as the money involved will monopolize the industry with patented technology. Never underestimate their scummy practices; our obsession with capitalism has made this the status quo even before television ever hit us. Hell, newspapers and public posters were already pulling this crap in the 1800's. This has been our reality since the invention of the word "corporation". Personally, I wish that any business that must advertise to even be viable should not exist. Unfortunately, every business owner who wants a piece of the pie disagrees and will do everything possible to force themselves onto us. Yes, force - it's tantamount to rape in my opinion. Unsolicited, unwanted, unwarranted, and inescapable - were any "person" to shove themselves at you like companies do, it would be considered rape. For example, "retargeting" is literally stalking you everywhere you go. How it is considered acceptable is beyond me.
- pitaj 10y ago
  > Yes, force - it's tantamount to rape in my opinion. No wonder you and your sister don't get along. This is completely ridiculous.
  - satori99 10y ago
    You are incorrectly replying. I don't think he mentioned his sister. That was my anecdote. I don't think advertising is tantamount to rape. Rape IMO, is one of the most heinous crimes a human can perpetrate on another. But I do think the advertising industry is already well over-the-line that I am comfortable with. The insane fact that we let advertisers track us and keep files on us should make anyone nervous.
- CaptSpify 10y ago
  > Walled garden AR will win out over any open-source equivalent, as the money involved will monopolize the industry with patented technology. why? FOSS seems to be doing fairly well across the Internet at the moment.

humbledrone 10y ago

What do you think about the fact that the website you linked as a reference is ad-supported? Assuming that you use an ad-blocker, have you contributed money directly to the web site in compensation? It seems that you got some value from the web site. Is this consistent with "advertising ruins everything"? Without ads, do you think the web site would exist at all?

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satori99 10y ago
Maybe not, but it was the first result of many when I searched for "Adnix". It's not their content either. I did not compensate the site, and I don't feel bad about that at all. I did, however, pay Carl Sagan for it many years ago, when he first published Contact.
TeMPOraL 10y ago
> Without ads, do you think the web site would exist at all? Quite likely. This kind of content is something people tend to maintain out of their own interest in the subject and willingness to share. Ads are added more like as a "why not?" thing. Anyway, there are many ways to monetize that don't involve asking third parties to shove shit at your visitors.
CaptSpify 10y ago
Plenty of quality sites existed before advertisement flooded the internet. Plenty can exist without advertisements now as well.

kimburgess 10y ago

Not quite small and light weight but: http://jonathandub.in/cognizance/ http://jonathandub.in/cognizance/ Also if you would like your phone to replace them with art: http://noad-app.com http://noad-app.com

developer2 10y ago

>> I am longing for the day that AR technology gets to the stage where lightweight sun-glass frames can have the ability to overlay classical art, or any other texture, over real-world ads in real-time. Don't hold your breath. The disgusting industry of marketing/advertising will happily pay the AR companies irrefusable sums of cash to have their firmware prevent you from overlaying their ads. Or worse, the ads will be projected directly onto your lenses without even needing to look at the real world. Walled garden AR will win out over any open-source equivalent, as the money involved will monopolize the industry with patented technology. Never underestimate their scummy practices; our obsession with capitalism has made this the status quo even before television ever hit us. Hell, newspapers and public posters were already pulling this crap in the 1800's. This has been our reality since the invention of the word "corporation". Personally, I wish that any business that must advertise to even be viable should not exist. Unfortunately, every business owner who wants a piece of the pie disagrees and will do everything possible to force themselves onto us. Yes, force - it's tantamount to rape in my opinion. Unsolicited, unwanted, unwarranted, and inescapable - were any "person" to shove themselves at you like companies do, it would be considered rape. For example, "retargeting" is literally stalking you everywhere you go. How it is considered acceptable is beyond me.

pitaj 10y ago
> Yes, force - it's tantamount to rape in my opinion. No wonder you and your sister don't get along. This is completely ridiculous.
- satori99 10y ago
  You are incorrectly replying. I don't think he mentioned his sister. That was my anecdote. I don't think advertising is tantamount to rape. Rape IMO, is one of the most heinous crimes a human can perpetrate on another. But I do think the advertising industry is already well over-the-line that I am comfortable with. The insane fact that we let advertisers track us and keep files on us should make anyone nervous.
CaptSpify 10y ago
> Walled garden AR will win out over any open-source equivalent, as the money involved will monopolize the industry with patented technology. why? FOSS seems to be doing fairly well across the Internet at the moment.