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Too subjective, more importantly. A Slashdot comment compared it to selecting friends: https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9857155&cid=53238301 https://slashdo

by yuhong 10y ago

Too subjective, more importantly. A Slashdot comment compared it to selecting friends: https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9857155&cid=53238301 https://slashdot.org/comments.pl?sid=9857155&cid=53238301

matt4077 10y ago
aka "The Old Boys' Club". I think your idea that you should be allowed not to hire African-Americans or women even if they're equally or better qualified is quite offensive. Even worse is that your argument now seems to be that you wouldn't want them as friends, either. And, worst of all, that you think that this community would share this attitude and could be convinced by it.
- yuhong 10y ago
  The point is that selecting programming team members is more like selecting friends than selecting for example assembly-line workers, which makes anti-discrimination laws less effective.
dfabulich 10y ago
You linked approvingly to that comment. I downvoted your post and your upthread comment as a result. I would flag that comment if it were posted to HN, and I'll explain why below. The comment argues that a woman (a "girl") should have no more or less control over her body than a corporation should have over its employees. One reason that's immoral is that people want autonomy, they thrive under it, and they deserve autonomy as a basic human right. Therefore, we should minimize the amount of control that corporations have over employees and maximize the amount of control people have over their own bodies. (And for too long, too many men think they should have control over women's bodies, especially deciding who women should be "allowed"/forced to partner with, so it's especially important that women be allowed to control their own bodies.) The comment you linked to isn't just incorrect; it's gross. It reduces the quality of HN as a forum, and it leaves me unwilling to read your upthread comment in a positive light.
- yuhong 10y ago
  Yea, I would not go as far as the comment says either.

by yuhong 10y ago

matt4077 10y ago

aka "The Old Boys' Club". I think your idea that you should be allowed not to hire African-Americans or women even if they're equally or better qualified is quite offensive. Even worse is that your argument now seems to be that you wouldn't want them as friends, either. And, worst of all, that you think that this community would share this attitude and could be convinced by it.

yuhong 10y ago
The point is that selecting programming team members is more like selecting friends than selecting for example assembly-line workers, which makes anti-discrimination laws less effective.

dfabulich 10y ago

You linked approvingly to that comment. I downvoted your post and your upthread comment as a result. I would flag that comment if it were posted to HN, and I'll explain why below. The comment argues that a woman (a "girl") should have no more or less control over her body than a corporation should have over its employees. One reason that's immoral is that people want autonomy, they thrive under it, and they deserve autonomy as a basic human right. Therefore, we should minimize the amount of control that corporations have over employees and maximize the amount of control people have over their own bodies. (And for too long, too many men think they should have control over women's bodies, especially deciding who women should be "allowed"/forced to partner with, so it's especially important that women be allowed to control their own bodies.) The comment you linked to isn't just incorrect; it's gross. It reduces the quality of HN as a forum, and it leaves me unwilling to read your upthread comment in a positive light.

yuhong 10y ago
Yea, I would not go as far as the comment says either.