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>I am interested to know if the stop command was a "save your own skin" move or a "save the market" safeguard. Definitely "save your own skin." The consequence
by losvedir 16y ago
>I am interested to know if the stop command was a "save your own skin" move or a "save the market" safeguard.
Definitely "save your own skin." The consequences can be dire when trades are "busted" (as many were). Consider this hypothetical situation:
Shares of a stock are trading at $50. After that plunge on Thursday, it's trading at $18, and an algorithm jumps in. The shares rally and at $22, the algorithm sells the shares for a quick profit, and calls it a day. The shares go back to $45 by the end of the day. (This is basically what happened).
The next day, NASDAQ rules that all trades at a price below 40% of the price before the plunge [are invalid](http://www.streetinsider.com/Insiders+Blog/NASDAQ+Busts+A+Number+of+Trades,+But+Says+Its+System+Ran+Problem-Free+During+the+Crash/5607699.html http://www.streetinsider.com/Insiders+Blog/NASDAQ+Busts+A+Nu...). Now that purchase at $18 didn't happen, but the sale at $22 did, and the high frequency trader is short the stock at $22, with the current price $45. That's why lots of high frequency trading shops shut down when trades are in danger of being busted.
Note: I don't do high frequency trading, this was just from interested reading after that plunge happened last Thursday. It seems bizarre to me that they can rule a purchase invalid but keep the sale, but I believe that's what happens.
- djb_hackernews 16y agoCan I get a link to that? Not doubting you, but I am very skeptical. That seems like a nightmare for whoever has to find those shares to fill the short order.
- losvedir 16y agoI wish I could find a good source. Basically I heard it from people like these (http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=198241 http://www.elitetrader.com/vb/showthread.php?threadid=198241), but I don't know for sure they're not just echoing what they heard (like I just did). There was one guy I remember reading, who seemed pretty authoritative, who echoed it, but I can't find a link to him.
- bryanh 16y agoThat explains it very well. I wasn't entirely sure if the stop command came from fear of retribution as the house came tumbling down or not. It was pretty apparent it was a self-made decision.