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In theory, yes. This is what they should have done. But now that they have violated our trust, our ad blockers are going to block even their legitimate self-hos

by Erik816 10y ago

In theory, yes. This is what they should have done. But now that they have violated our trust, our ad blockers are going to block even their legitimate self-hosted and managed ads. Some people will white-list, but not nearly enough to make up for the expense of managing ads in house.

mikestew 10y ago
Seems to me that's the genie they can't put back in the bottle. As I said in another comment, up to a point users will tolerate advertising. But go past that point, and users will take the nuclear option, and once it's on their machine there's no going back. Ever get a new machine and surf the web without an ad blocker after using one for a while? Fucking horrible, isn't it? Yup, your grandma thinks so, too. So could you come over and put that ad thing on her new iPad? Similar thing happened to the music industry. File all the lawsuits you want, insist all you like that the accepted way to buy music is on an over-priced piece of plastic, wax eloquently of "unwritten pacts", but users are going to stand in line to splash buckets of cold water in your face until you get it. The advertising industry as a whole could have taken a different, better path. But they're just as lazy as I am, and they took the easy way out. In the long-term, though, they're going to have a tough time of it as a result of short-term thinking. And white-listing? Didn't I just say I'm lazy?
problems 10y ago
Not only that, but lack of ads on a page is truly corrupting. Once you've seen it you can't go back. I can't look at someone without an ad blocker's browser without going "uh, here, install this". I just don't see them anymore, since I don't pay for TV and block ads online, ads are almost entirely outside my daily experience. So when I encounter them now it triggers a burn-it-with-fire response.
5ilv3r 10y ago
My ublock install doesn't block self hosted ads. They have to come from an ad server to be blocked.
- gorhill 10y ago
  uBlock Origin can block self-hosted ads. If you see non-blocked ads somewhere, just report the details to filter list maintainers. The tens of thousands of filters in those filter lists are the result of users reporting instances of non-blocked ads, for the benefit of all other users.
ouid 10y ago
I would want my ad blocker to do that anyway. I don't want to experience any advertisements. I do not believe my experiencing an advertisement will enrich anyone, and my life will be made worse.

by Erik816 10y ago

mikestew 10y ago

Seems to me that's the genie they can't put back in the bottle. As I said in another comment, up to a point users will tolerate advertising. But go past that point, and users will take the nuclear option, and once it's on their machine there's no going back. Ever get a new machine and surf the web without an ad blocker after using one for a while? Fucking horrible, isn't it? Yup, your grandma thinks so, too. So could you come over and put that ad thing on her new iPad? Similar thing happened to the music industry. File all the lawsuits you want, insist all you like that the accepted way to buy music is on an over-priced piece of plastic, wax eloquently of "unwritten pacts", but users are going to stand in line to splash buckets of cold water in your face until you get it. The advertising industry as a whole could have taken a different, better path. But they're just as lazy as I am, and they took the easy way out. In the long-term, though, they're going to have a tough time of it as a result of short-term thinking. And white-listing? Didn't I just say I'm lazy?

problems 10y ago

Not only that, but lack of ads on a page is truly corrupting. Once you've seen it you can't go back. I can't look at someone without an ad blocker's browser without going "uh, here, install this". I just don't see them anymore, since I don't pay for TV and block ads online, ads are almost entirely outside my daily experience. So when I encounter them now it triggers a burn-it-with-fire response.

5ilv3r 10y ago

My ublock install doesn't block self hosted ads. They have to come from an ad server to be blocked.

gorhill 10y ago
uBlock Origin can block self-hosted ads. If you see non-blocked ads somewhere, just report the details to filter list maintainers. The tens of thousands of filters in those filter lists are the result of users reporting instances of non-blocked ads, for the benefit of all other users.

ouid 10y ago

I would want my ad blocker to do that anyway. I don't want to experience any advertisements. I do not believe my experiencing an advertisement will enrich anyone, and my life will be made worse.