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Do you have such an example of an organization that claimed to be meritocratic but defied that in practice? There are plenty of such examples for communism of c

Do you have such an example of an organization that claimed to be meritocratic but defied that in practice? There are plenty of such examples for communism of course, but I'm blanking on ones of meritocracy. Seems like it should at least be an amicable goal.

jballanc 10y ago
I don't know that they've ever (publicly) published a post-mortem, but I know GitHub used to emphasize being a "meritocracy" but have since moved away from that after some long-festering issues (that were distinctly anti-idealistic-meritocratic) surfaced. There's also the fact that the participation of women and minorities in OSS is smaller than their participation in the technology industry as a whole. Granted, not every OSS project touts itself as a meritocracy, but it's probably the area where the concept is championed most vociferously.
- dsfyu404ed 10y ago
  >participation of women and minorities in OSS is smaller I think that can mostly be diversity hiring. A company can hire women/minorities to increase diversity. A FOSS project can't accept code on the premise of diversity. I think the narrow scope of most FOSS projects (or the individual components that contributors wind up specializing in) also makes most of the benefits of diversity less relevant. Diverse teams do better on diverse tasks. (I don't think diversity hiring is a bad practice as long as the people hired are qualified for the job)
  - problems 10y ago
    There's a ton of possible interpretations here - could simply be that more women just generally have other things to do with free time than men. Or maybe it's that women are genuinely scared off of open source development due to problems. Or an issue with the studies that get those results as a lot are based off username, which might be a bad metric. Lots of possibilities. No good way to know by speculating.

jballanc 10y ago

I don't know that they've ever (publicly) published a post-mortem, but I know GitHub used to emphasize being a "meritocracy" but have since moved away from that after some long-festering issues (that were distinctly anti-idealistic-meritocratic) surfaced. There's also the fact that the participation of women and minorities in OSS is smaller than their participation in the technology industry as a whole. Granted, not every OSS project touts itself as a meritocracy, but it's probably the area where the concept is championed most vociferously.

dsfyu404ed 10y ago
>participation of women and minorities in OSS is smaller I think that can mostly be diversity hiring. A company can hire women/minorities to increase diversity. A FOSS project can't accept code on the premise of diversity. I think the narrow scope of most FOSS projects (or the individual components that contributors wind up specializing in) also makes most of the benefits of diversity less relevant. Diverse teams do better on diverse tasks. (I don't think diversity hiring is a bad practice as long as the people hired are qualified for the job)
- problems 10y ago
  There's a ton of possible interpretations here - could simply be that more women just generally have other things to do with free time than men. Or maybe it's that women are genuinely scared off of open source development due to problems. Or an issue with the studies that get those results as a lot are based off username, which might be a bad metric. Lots of possibilities. No good way to know by speculating.