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Since he's not a government official—the story is quite explicit that he's working for a private organization—he's fraudulently travelling on a diplomatic passp

Since he's not a government official—the story is quite explicit that he's working for a private organization—he's fraudulently travelling on a diplomatic passport. He should have been arrested at the border, interrogated, barred permanently from the USA, and deported.

lawless123 10y ago
Hell yeah, lets waterboard him with mountain dew too , and let him know the taste of Freedom TM.
angry_octet 10y ago
Do you really think that former Prime Ministers travel on regular passports? Don't be dense.
- WildUtah 10y ago
  Prime minister of tiny Norway is about as powerful and important as a small city mayor in the USA. Do retired small city mayors travel in first class on diplomatic passports and expect to be free from customs and immigration rules that apply to everyone else? They do not. He isn't a fairytale prince. When he loses his post, he can travel on legitimate documents like the rest of us.
  - __derek__ 10y ago
    Which cities? I'd be surprised to discover that small city mayors participate in climate, NATO, and EEA negotiations.
egwynn 10y ago
That's possible. But to me it's not totally obvious. He said the US embassy in Oslo checked/authorized his travel credentials. So either he's lying or the US embassy fucked up. Either way, it sounds like situations like these used to be handled a little more smoothly/amicably. If two nations are friendly to each other, and one fucks up, what's the use in antagonism?
- __derek__ 10y ago
  Possibly related is last week's purge of State Department personnel[1]. With State iced out by the Administration and CBP let off the reins, it makes sense that there would be miscommunication there. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/29/state-department-purge-trump-foreign-policy https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/29/state-depart...
detaro 10y ago
Diplomatic passports are not necessarily restricted to "official travels" in the strict sense, and it is up to the issuing nation to decide who gets one and when they are allowed to use it. (But it also has no internationally fixed "special powers", any nation can decide for itself if it treats its carriers any different) E.g. here in Germany the law explicitly adds the possibility to issue them to people travelling "in the special interest of Germany", which a former PM traveling to an important event he was invited to because of his status (which the National Prayer Breakfast seems to be) would fit. (There even are exceptions where no representative role at all is required, although I doubt they are used much)

lawless123 10y ago

Hell yeah, lets waterboard him with mountain dew too , and let him know the taste of Freedom TM.

angry_octet 10y ago

Do you really think that former Prime Ministers travel on regular passports? Don't be dense.

WildUtah 10y ago
Prime minister of tiny Norway is about as powerful and important as a small city mayor in the USA. Do retired small city mayors travel in first class on diplomatic passports and expect to be free from customs and immigration rules that apply to everyone else? They do not. He isn't a fairytale prince. When he loses his post, he can travel on legitimate documents like the rest of us.
- __derek__ 10y ago
  Which cities? I'd be surprised to discover that small city mayors participate in climate, NATO, and EEA negotiations.

egwynn 10y ago

That's possible. But to me it's not totally obvious. He said the US embassy in Oslo checked/authorized his travel credentials. So either he's lying or the US embassy fucked up. Either way, it sounds like situations like these used to be handled a little more smoothly/amicably. If two nations are friendly to each other, and one fucks up, what's the use in antagonism?

__derek__ 10y ago
Possibly related is last week's purge of State Department personnel[1]. With State iced out by the Administration and CBP let off the reins, it makes sense that there would be miscommunication there. [1] https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/29/state-department-purge-trump-foreign-policy https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/jan/29/state-depart...

detaro 10y ago

Diplomatic passports are not necessarily restricted to "official travels" in the strict sense, and it is up to the issuing nation to decide who gets one and when they are allowed to use it. (But it also has no internationally fixed "special powers", any nation can decide for itself if it treats its carriers any different) E.g. here in Germany the law explicitly adds the possibility to issue them to people travelling "in the special interest of Germany", which a former PM traveling to an important event he was invited to because of his status (which the National Prayer Breakfast seems to be) would fit. (There even are exceptions where no representative role at all is required, although I doubt they are used much)