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All he wants is better salesmanship. He wants someone to tell him why he wants something so that he'll actually enjoy owning it. A desk becomes more than just
by dkarl 17y ago
All he wants is better salesmanship. He wants someone to tell him why he wants something so that he'll actually enjoy owning it. A desk becomes more than just a desk. Shaving cream becomes more than just shaving cream.
Looking for reasons to not just buy el-cheapo shaving cream. Is there anything out there worth spending a little money on?
The best shaving cream isn't worth spending money on until somebody sells you on it.
Here's another idea: if you don't get pleasure or a feeling of discernment out of your shaving cream, maybe you should accept that. If the Ikea desk makes you just as happy as the Stow Davis desk, maybe you should accept that, instead of yearning for a salesman to help you believe you have better taste. It's moralistic and a downer, but looking for ways to get more satisfaction out of your purchases is a sickness.
Example: I don't have a very sensitive palate for wine. Therefore, I don't spend much on wine and don't pretend to know anything about it. When my friends talk about wine, I sit back and wait for the subject to change. Part of me feels like I'm missing out, part of me feels like an inferior yuppie -- which I suppose I am. It would be so easy to fake it. Fooling myself would be almost as easy as fooling other people. I could read reviews of every wine I buy and parrot what they say about bananas, strawberries, and barnyards. I would enjoy myself immensely, and people would like me better because I would be more fun. High-end wines would provide another way of buying excitement and validation. I could transmit that excitement and validation to other people. I could even make them feel loved by my careful attention to the wine I served them. My conscience, my intellectual integrity, is the only thing holding me back from these benefits.
Wait, you say -- wouldn't the pleasure be genuine? Sure. It would. So why pass up an opportunity to manufacture pleasure? Aren't I just stealing happiness from everybody to gratify a moralistic urge that has no valid moral basis? If it's one kind of empty self-indulgence versus another, shouldn't I pick the one that provides happiness to myself and other people?
This is a serious question, and I can't claim to have an answer that is much better-founded than my simple engineer's (or prude's) instinct that there must be a catch. However, I can name a few things that would be wrong about it.
First, I would be financially supporting wine prices that could, for all I know, be completely fraudulent. Unless I can be confident I can tell the difference between a $12 wine a $60 wine, my spending $60 just creates an opportunity for unscrupulous folks to make money by overpricing wine. That might not hurt me, but it would hurt real connoisseurs.
Second, I suspect that I would get more pleasure out of real appreciation than out of an illusory appreciation, as my "appreciation" of wine would be. The excitement, validation, and pleasure in tasting would all be genuine, but the taste itself would not be stimulating. I would, at best, be imagining novel sensations based on the descriptions of people with more sensitive palates. Nothing would exceed my imagination. I would be investing time, thought, and money into a cognitively incestuous and sterile experience. Aesthetic masturbation, if you will. Wouldn't I be better off concentrating on areas where I have the capacity to be truly surprised and stimulated? Wouldn't Rands be better off ignoring desks and focusing his attention on something he has legitimate taste for, instead of asking a salesman to manufacture an illusory appreciation for a Stow Davis desk?
(After all, you've been exposed to various kinds of furniture all your life, and if you still need a pep talk from another person to care deeply about the widely admired qualities of a certain desk, then you're simply blind to it. It's okay. Everyone has domains of insight and domains of blindness, and to elevate wine and furniture over other domains is just snobbery.)
Third, you should be careful what you do with your money. My bank balance affects how much I invest in truly worthy causes. Every year I sign up for recurring charitable deductions from my paycheck. When I decide how much to sign up for for the next year, the state of my finances has an effect on how much I feel comfortable comitting to. I also lend money to friends and family when they need it; again, my bank balance affects how much I'm comfortable giving. Basically, I'm a selfish, risk-averse person, and my willingness to be altruistic is heavily dependent on my own security and comfort. It's easy to give away excess. Looking for expensive new ways to turn my excess into pleasure is another way of saying, "I'd better find something better to do with this money than give it to the EFF/Doctors Without Borders/<your favorite charity here>!" If you're really miserable and money is all you have going for you, then converting money into happiness should be your top priority (though buying stuff is probably not the best way.) If you're already reasonably happy, then go ahead and buy what you enjoy, but don't look at every expensive toy and think, "Oooooh, I want to learn how to appreciate THAT so I can enjoy BUYING and HAVING it!" You already know a million ways money can buy happiness; if you've exhausted all the ones that apply to you, then maybe you should spend the money on somebody else.
I know Rands is exploring this issue from the consumer side for the sake of working the sales side. That doesn't make it any better. If you wouldn't feel right doing it yourself, how could you feel right making money by persuading other people to do it?
- mquander 17y agoI totally agree. I'm absolutely with Rands here: You can have an opinion. It sounds like work, but it’s really not. An opinion is not the definitive view or judgement regarding a thing; it’s you staring at that desk and saying, “You know, I like the look and the feel of those brass handles. I also like the drawers that squeak just a bit when you open them. It speaks to the character of the whole desk.” It’s not that I want a Stow Davis desk, it’s that I want to find that desk. I want to go to seven different antique shops and spend a weekend developing an opinion about the state of antique desks. I want to find someone who knows the entire history of Stow Davis desks and won’t fucking shut up about them. Half the fun of having an opinion is the quest to find one, but the everything problem remains. You don’t have the time to have an opinion about everything... But then he makes this totally ridiculous leap: ...but someone has the time. So what? What good is it if it's someone else's opinion? Why would you want someone else to feed you their opinion on shaving cream, even if they've got a really objectively great opinion? It's not as if it actually makes any goddamn difference what shaving cream you buy, unless you believe it does. Ditto for desks, and so on. I have an opinion on lots of stuff like that, but it's because I'm an opinionated little fuck. I don't think it's really a state to aspire to. Rands, on the other hand, apparently values being this complicated, networked, shopping consuming machine, and to what end? I don't understand. P.S. Rands, you could, you know, try different brands of shaving cream until you find one you dig, like a normal person.
- derefr 17y agoEr... nothing makes any difference. We die, and then everything we have done gets washed away by Alzheimer's, worms, and the rain. However, if we care about things—other people, for instance, but shaving cream's as good a thing to care about as any—then we can spend our lives happier for the choices we have made. Rands wants people to give him reasons to care about more things, so he can make more choices and therefore define himself more clearly. He's not asking for someone to pick the best shaving cream, and then just say "here, use this one, it has 10^23 utilons subjective to your experiential context"—he's asking for reasons to care about liking particular shaving creams at all. It turns out the best way to solicit those reasons—the dimensional parameters that define the space of shaving cream quality, so to speak—is to get someone to sell you a few particular creams, and explain why their "earning five stars on the Bugnatti face-feel scale" or "resisting incursive facial bacteria" facts are important. Those lessons learned, you can then pick your own shaving cream, "like a normal person"—but you'll know why, not just how, to choose. The best analogy I can think of is to music. Have you ever met someone who just didn't care about music, at all? Didn't you feel like something was missing from their lives? Do you think you could get them to care about music by showing them a bunch of music-theoretical math and physics? Or would you just say "this is my favorite band; they do X and Y really well", and expect them to explore outward from there, now listening for other bands' Xs and Ys, and eventually forming their own opinions of what makes a good band? Now, for "music", replace with every single possible other interesting thing in this world.