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The problem is not the stored energy. It is the time needed to store it. Low on gas? Get to a station, take 10mn to refill and you're gone for 500 more miles.

by arkh 10y ago

The problem is not the stored energy. It is the time needed to store it. Low on gas? Get to a station, take 10mn to refill and you're gone for 500 more miles. Low on battery? Get to a station, wait hours to get it charged back up and you can go for 300 more miles. The fact charging takes time means a long queue before you can get to a charger.

vvillena 10y ago
Drive for two hours, rest for 30 minutes while the car charges enough to drive two more hours. While not exactly the same usage pattern as a fossil fuel car, it should be enough. We need more quick charge points.
- Shivetya 10y ago
  but that is not how people travel, ever. besides time to charge the real big drawback of battery EVs is the weight of the packs
  - exhilaration 10y ago
    But this is how they used to travel when cars were first introduced. The Ford Model T could only get 170-200 miles [1] on a full tank of gas and gas stations were certainly as rare in the early 1900's as electric charge stations are today. Yet Ford still sold a ton of Model T's, and look at where we are today. [1] Source: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/146015.html?1276927169 http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/146015.html?1276...
  - soundwave106 10y ago
    I would say this actually fits the majority of traffic patterns: https://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/subject_areas/national_household_travel_survey/daily_travel.html https://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/su... EG: The vast majority of travel is for errands and work commuting. Probably a lot of that social travel in the linked survey is short distance as well. Average miles a day is 30, which can easily be covered by an overnight charge. Agree that the time to charge EVs is definitely a drawback for long distance travel (whether for social reasons or for transport etc.).
drcross 10y ago
>It is the time needed to store it. For now. Battery tech is increasing at a fast pace.

by arkh 10y ago

vvillena 10y ago

Drive for two hours, rest for 30 minutes while the car charges enough to drive two more hours. While not exactly the same usage pattern as a fossil fuel car, it should be enough. We need more quick charge points.

Shivetya 10y ago
but that is not how people travel, ever. besides time to charge the real big drawback of battery EVs is the weight of the packs
- exhilaration 10y ago
  But this is how they used to travel when cars were first introduced. The Ford Model T could only get 170-200 miles [1] on a full tank of gas and gas stations were certainly as rare in the early 1900's as electric charge stations are today. Yet Ford still sold a ton of Model T's, and look at where we are today. [1] Source: http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/146015.html?1276927169 http://www.mtfca.com/discus/messages/118802/146015.html?1276...
- soundwave106 10y ago
  I would say this actually fits the majority of traffic patterns: https://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/subject_areas/national_household_travel_survey/daily_travel.html https://www.rita.dot.gov/bts/sites/rita.dot.gov.bts/files/su... EG: The vast majority of travel is for errands and work commuting. Probably a lot of that social travel in the linked survey is short distance as well. Average miles a day is 30, which can easily be covered by an overnight charge. Agree that the time to charge EVs is definitely a drawback for long distance travel (whether for social reasons or for transport etc.).

drcross 10y ago

>It is the time needed to store it. For now. Battery tech is increasing at a fast pace.