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There was some discussions in Reddit about converting this to epub or similar. Apparently the book is free as in beer, not free as in freedom; derivative works

There was some discussions in Reddit about converting this to epub or similar. Apparently the book is free as in beer, not free as in freedom; derivative works can't be distributed and some people argued that for a decent ebook experience you needed to make adjustments to the book. As no one wants to be challenged by Google in court, there were no volunteers last time I've checked.

josephcooney 10y ago
I bought it from O'Reilly....it came with mobi and epub versions. http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920041528.do http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920041528.do
- majkinetor 10y ago
  Great. Thx for the info. When the world goes down, Calibre comes with me.
- deleted 10y ago
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captn3m0 10y ago
What I've done for this in other cases is to write a helper script that fetches the entire HTML and then converts it to epub/mobi. Then publish the script on github: https://github.com/captn3m0/hoshruba https://github.com/captn3m0/hoshruba
- Klathmon 10y ago
  Isn't this "loophole" treated the same as distributing the work in the eyes of the DMCA? (not speaking to the morals or ethics of it, just it's legality in the US)
  - gdamjan1 10y ago
    the book is licensed under CC by-nc-nd, and repacking in another format for distribution shouldn't be considered a derivative. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/ https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/ You are free to: Share — copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format /IANAL
    - user5994461 10y ago
      For this specific case, repacking a book in another format is 100% guaranteed derivative. /No need to be a lawyer. That's covered in law case study 301 and 302.
    - unethical_ban 10y ago
      To user5994461 below, to whom I cannot reply: In the CC license linked, the following text reads like making an ebook would be alright. The helper text on "remix, transform or build upon" says "Merely changing the format never creates a derivative."
      - Klathmon 10y ago
        just FYI for the future. HN will limit replies for a few minutes after a comment is made to kind of slow down the discussion and prevent flaming/arguing in the heat of the moment. If you want, you can click on the "time" of their comment (ex "3 minutes ago") which will bring you to a page that you can always reply to (at least in my experience).
  - extra88 10y ago
    No, because the original work is not protected by a technological barrier, the script does not violate the DMCA's prohibition on distributing circumvention tools.

josephcooney 10y ago

I bought it from O'Reilly....it came with mobi and epub versions. http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920041528.do http://shop.oreilly.com/product/0636920041528.do

majkinetor 10y ago
Great. Thx for the info. When the world goes down, Calibre comes with me.
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captn3m0 10y ago

What I've done for this in other cases is to write a helper script that fetches the entire HTML and then converts it to epub/mobi. Then publish the script on github: https://github.com/captn3m0/hoshruba https://github.com/captn3m0/hoshruba

Klathmon 10y ago
Isn't this "loophole" treated the same as distributing the work in the eyes of the DMCA? (not speaking to the morals or ethics of it, just it's legality in the US)
- gdamjan1 10y ago
  the book is licensed under CC by-nc-nd, and repacking in another format for distribution shouldn't be considered a derivative. https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/ https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-nc-nd/4.0/ You are free to: Share — copy and redistribute the material in any medium or format /IANAL
  - user5994461 10y ago
    For this specific case, repacking a book in another format is 100% guaranteed derivative. /No need to be a lawyer. That's covered in law case study 301 and 302.
  - unethical_ban 10y ago
    To user5994461 below, to whom I cannot reply: In the CC license linked, the following text reads like making an ebook would be alright. The helper text on "remix, transform or build upon" says "Merely changing the format never creates a derivative."
    - Klathmon 10y ago
      just FYI for the future. HN will limit replies for a few minutes after a comment is made to kind of slow down the discussion and prevent flaming/arguing in the heat of the moment. If you want, you can click on the "time" of their comment (ex "3 minutes ago") which will bring you to a page that you can always reply to (at least in my experience).
- extra88 10y ago
  No, because the original work is not protected by a technological barrier, the script does not violate the DMCA's prohibition on distributing circumvention tools.