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That performance improvement happened in 8. 10 didn't bring anything new to the table in terms of optimizations.

by E6300 10y ago

princeb 10y ago
dx12 doesn't work with 8
- E6300 10y ago
  The benchmarks I've seen don't really point to DX12 as being an optimization.
  - Mithaldu 10y ago
    It's not about optimization, it's about the fact that games will come out that support only that because the game devs don't want to support multiple graphics APIs.
    - E6300 10y ago
      Developers won't do that for a good while if adoption rates continue at their current level.
      - Mithaldu 10y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_... Oh, also, Dx12 does offer performance benefits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX_12#DirectX_12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX_12#DirectX_12
        E6300 10y ago
        Is that a list of games that only support DX12, or a list of games that support DX12 and possibly some other API as well?
        dagw 10y ago
        It's both.
        E6300 10y ago
        Okay, so how about a list of games that only support DX12, since that's what's being discussed here?
        dagw 10y ago
        The link lists both games that only support DX12 and games that support DX12 and something else.
        Mithaldu 10y ago
        Did you look at it on a phone and missed the column clearly marking which is which?
grogenaut 10y ago
being partially sarcastic: who could stand 8? as much as you hate the features you have to turn off... 8 was much much worse. 8.1 also really bad. 10 is like 7 that works way better. I also really like my work win10 where corp it has stripped all of the garbage for me, except that stupid "welcome" screen, which you used to be able to skip by task managering. Hello! I know windows is ready to go... I know you love your FTUE, did you think about your 92UE? :)
- E6300 10y ago
  Eh. 8.1 works fine for me. I get the performance improvements over 7, but I also get to control when to apply updates. The start screen was an eyesore at first, but I actually kind of like it now. The Windows 10 "start menu" is much worse, because it's exactly the same as the start screen but way smaller I have to use 10 at work because I'm working on a driver that I need Windows 8 or newer to write it and the only HDD with anything like that on it had 10, and I absolutely hate that once in a while I come in to work and the OS will have decided at some point during the night that updating itself was more important than whatever it was I had running.
  - Mithaldu 10y ago
    Frankly, i'm in grogenaut's boat. Windows 8 was a disaster like ME, with some improvements, but those invented half-baked or with too much opinions. Win 10 is the first time i considered upgrading from Win 7, and it ended up wonderful.

That performance improvement happened in 8. 10 didn't bring anything new to the table in terms of optimizations.

by E6300 10y ago

That performance improvement happened in 8. 10 didn't bring anything new to the table in terms of optimizations.

princeb 10y ago

dx12 doesn't work with 8

E6300 10y ago
The benchmarks I've seen don't really point to DX12 as being an optimization.
- Mithaldu 10y ago
  It's not about optimization, it's about the fact that games will come out that support only that because the game devs don't want to support multiple graphics APIs.
  - E6300 10y ago
    Developers won't do that for a good while if adoption rates continue at their current level.
    - Mithaldu 10y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_support https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_games_with_DirectX_12_... Oh, also, Dx12 does offer performance benefits: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX_12#DirectX_12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DirectX_12#DirectX_12
      - E6300 10y ago
        Is that a list of games that only support DX12, or a list of games that support DX12 and possibly some other API as well?
        dagw 10y ago
        It's both.
        E6300 10y ago
        Okay, so how about a list of games that only support DX12, since that's what's being discussed here?
        dagw 10y ago
        The link lists both games that only support DX12 and games that support DX12 and something else.
        Mithaldu 10y ago
        Did you look at it on a phone and missed the column clearly marking which is which?

grogenaut 10y ago

being partially sarcastic: who could stand 8? as much as you hate the features you have to turn off... 8 was much much worse. 8.1 also really bad. 10 is like 7 that works way better. I also really like my work win10 where corp it has stripped all of the garbage for me, except that stupid "welcome" screen, which you used to be able to skip by task managering. Hello! I know windows is ready to go... I know you love your FTUE, did you think about your 92UE? :)

E6300 10y ago
Eh. 8.1 works fine for me. I get the performance improvements over 7, but I also get to control when to apply updates. The start screen was an eyesore at first, but I actually kind of like it now. The Windows 10 "start menu" is much worse, because it's exactly the same as the start screen but way smaller I have to use 10 at work because I'm working on a driver that I need Windows 8 or newer to write it and the only HDD with anything like that on it had 10, and I absolutely hate that once in a while I come in to work and the OS will have decided at some point during the night that updating itself was more important than whatever it was I had running.
- Mithaldu 10y ago
  Frankly, i'm in grogenaut's boat. Windows 8 was a disaster like ME, with some improvements, but those invented half-baked or with too much opinions. Win 10 is the first time i considered upgrading from Win 7, and it ended up wonderful.