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I was a voter---and I wont' say which way---and I'd like to have a conversation but I am afraid that if I express any views then this will happen: 1. I will be

I was a voter---and I wont' say which way---and I'd like to have a conversation but I am afraid that if I express any views then this will happen: 1. I will be called a member of a neo-fascist party 2. People will say that I am a racist, sexist, bigot. 3. I will be fired from my job because I no longer fit the "company culture". 4. People will see me at a public workspace, and move away from me, and refuse to partner with me. Eventually I will be asked to leave because I am making people uncomfortable with my mere presence. 5. My acquaintances will shun me, and speak about me in whispers of "I didn't know he/she was like that..." This is why I do not speak. I simply cast my vote, and move on.

mcphage 10y ago
Voting is a political action, wherein you express your preference for what you want the future of the country to look like. Why do you think you shouldn't be held accountable for your actions? If you're of voting age, you're not a child anymore. As an adult, you act, and are responsible and accountable for those actions. Furthermore, if what you want the country to be like is something that others find distasteful, why do you believe that others shouldn't act on that? It's not like like we're talking about the difference between chocolate or vanilla ice cream. You were asked if you wanted a stable government or... whatever it is we have right now. Why don't you believe that would reflect upon who you are, and how others view you?
vorotato 10y ago
I had a coworker admit he was a Trump supporter, and most of those things haven't happened. However this coworker doesn't actually HAVE sexist, racist and bigoted opinions. The coworker expressed distaste in Trump's immigrant ban, but still believed that he would help the economy. I think this coworker is wrong, however I don't think they are a racist/sexist/bigot. I do think they are a follower of a neo-facist party, but I do not think they themselves are facist. He does make people uncomfortable sometimes, but not because of his political views, and yeah sometimes people do go, "He's a trump supporter?", but they get over it.
zimpenfish 10y ago
> People will say that I am a racist, sexist, bigot. If you voted for Trump, yes, they will because you voted for someone who is all of those things - you were perfectly ok with his behaviour on those axes.
- dllthomas 10y ago
  Voting for Trump would indicate that they are sufficiently okay with his behavior. Nothing has established that they were perfectly okay with it.
  - prodigal_erik 10y ago
    Clinton strongly favors free trade and mass immigration. You could despise Trump yet vote for him if you think those trends are sufficiently harmful, because the only signals you could add to this election were Clinton, Trump, and Don't Care.
    - dllthomas 10y ago
      > the only signals you could add to this election were Clinton, Trump, and Don't Care. A third party vote isn't quite the same thing as not casting a vote. Otherwise, I don't think we disagree?

mcphage 10y ago

Voting is a political action, wherein you express your preference for what you want the future of the country to look like. Why do you think you shouldn't be held accountable for your actions? If you're of voting age, you're not a child anymore. As an adult, you act, and are responsible and accountable for those actions. Furthermore, if what you want the country to be like is something that others find distasteful, why do you believe that others shouldn't act on that? It's not like like we're talking about the difference between chocolate or vanilla ice cream. You were asked if you wanted a stable government or... whatever it is we have right now. Why don't you believe that would reflect upon who you are, and how others view you?

vorotato 10y ago

I had a coworker admit he was a Trump supporter, and most of those things haven't happened. However this coworker doesn't actually HAVE sexist, racist and bigoted opinions. The coworker expressed distaste in Trump's immigrant ban, but still believed that he would help the economy. I think this coworker is wrong, however I don't think they are a racist/sexist/bigot. I do think they are a follower of a neo-facist party, but I do not think they themselves are facist. He does make people uncomfortable sometimes, but not because of his political views, and yeah sometimes people do go, "He's a trump supporter?", but they get over it.

zimpenfish 10y ago

> People will say that I am a racist, sexist, bigot. If you voted for Trump, yes, they will because you voted for someone who is all of those things - you were perfectly ok with his behaviour on those axes.

dllthomas 10y ago
Voting for Trump would indicate that they are sufficiently okay with his behavior. Nothing has established that they were perfectly okay with it.
- prodigal_erik 10y ago
  Clinton strongly favors free trade and mass immigration. You could despise Trump yet vote for him if you think those trends are sufficiently harmful, because the only signals you could add to this election were Clinton, Trump, and Don't Care.
  - dllthomas 10y ago
    > the only signals you could add to this election were Clinton, Trump, and Don't Care. A third party vote isn't quite the same thing as not casting a vote. Otherwise, I don't think we disagree?