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There's a lot in the Control Panel. The more you move to the new Settings app, the more complicated Settings gets. And if Microsoft didn't provide all those set
by scholia 10y ago
There's a lot in the Control Panel. The more you move to the new Settings app, the more complicated Settings gets. And if Microsoft didn't provide all those settings, or dropped the whole Control Panel, there would be a tornado of criticism.
Life is hard when you have 1.5 billion users, especially when a lot of them resist attempts to modernise or even update the system.
Do it all at once, they'll complain bitterly. Do it gradually, they'll complain bitterly. Don't do it at all, they'll complain bitterly. Which complaint would you like to make today> ;-)
On the good side, ordinary users have few problems with the Settings app, and it seems to do all they need -- or at least it comes close.
And the people who are resistant to change and are already familiar with the Control Panel can still use it.
- Nition 10y agoI'd understand that more if it was all esoteric power-user type stuff that was missing in the new system. But stuff like mouse pointer speed? Apparently Misrosoft has said that they do want to drop the old-style control panel eventually. I realise it's a huge job, but it feels very like a half-finished feature right now.
- nikanj 10y agoIn my Mouse panel, there's an additional tab created by the Trackpad drivers. I can only guess how many proprietary extensions have been built to rely on the old Control Panel interfaces, and how few of them will ever be updated to Windows 10.
- thirdsun 10y agoTo me that sounds like a good thing - I don't like it when drivers need to "inject" themselves into OS level settings.
- computerex 10y agoTotally agree, it's very half-baked atm.
- grogenaut 10y agoMouse speed IS power user stuff. Poll the general populace, what percent actually know about mouse pointer speed or that you can adjust it. back in 2002 I went around bumping everyone's screen resolution from vga in college because it hurt my sole. at least 20% of people got pissed at me for "fucking up their settings". Almost all eventually came back and said "I can't read my whole doc, show me that thing again." Point being they didn't even know it was broke or that they could change it. Thus you have iOS where apple's defaults are the whole OS and literally millions upon millions of people are completely happy with it.
- Retra 10y agoEverything you are saying is only true because Microsoft has done a poor job making easy to follow settings menus.
- lloeki 10y agoEverything he says is true because most people don't even fscking care the very least, even if the option were right in their face. Think BOFH dummy mode. People just want a zero-knob appliance for shit to get done. We are the damn exception to the rule.
- herbst 10y agoMy mum learned that if she did not like something she can just press the super button and start typing whatever the annoyance is related to. I am sometimes surprised by the specific settings she goes for. Based on this i think users at least check the options when they are easily available. (Linux obviously)
- Silhouette 10y agoLife is hard when you have 1.5 billion users, especially when a lot of them resist attempts to modernise or even update the system. That's true, but it's probably a lot harder when you've proven to be untrustworthy in what you include under "modernisation" or "updates". Plenty of techie people warned that user-hostile behaviour like the GWX campaign or including non-security things in updates advertised as security patches would damage that trust and come back to bite them later. I think a lot of people didn't really believe that would be the case at the time, but as the article here notes, the adoption rates suggest otherwise.
- seanp2k2 10y agoNot to mention all the dark patterns around pushing the Win10 "upgrade" in the first place.
- Silhouette 10y agoYes. (GWX = common shorthand for those "Get Windows 10" updates.)
- scholia 10y agoTrue. They pushed their luck, and got more than 400 million users onto a new OS. Not only that, it's a much better OS. The only people who actually suffered were the OEMs, who didn't get to sell new PCs to all those people whose old PCs got a new lease of life.
- Silhouette 10y agoI'm pretty sure all the people who were complaining about being tricked into upgrading don't agree with you.
- scholia 10y agoI'm pretty sure that was a small minority of more than 400 million users. It didn't happen on any of my Windows PCs, nor to anyone I know personally.
- SeanDav 10y ago> "... especially when a lot of them resist attempts to modernise or even update the system." I am one of those holdouts, however I would have upgraded a long time ago if Windows 10 had allowed me control over upgrades/updates and had better privacy. After the tricks that Microsoft pulled, trying to force me to upgrade to Windows 10, I do not trust Windows 10 and you cannot feel that about an OS and install it.
- NTripleOne 10y agoDisable the windows update service and now you have manual control over updates (enable when you want to update). There's also a billion and one "one click privacy fix" tools like TRONscript, etc.
- scholia 10y agoYour loss. I trust Windows 10 a lot more than Android, and I use that as well ;-) The future is more-or-less-continuous updates based on telemetry. That's how Google and Facebook work as well. Microsoft will never go back to a 3-year upgrade cycle, and no business should want to do that either.