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If that were completely true then he wouldn't have a council of tech advisors that all hold views counter to his own. If the man is willing to talk to you abou
by anbende 10y ago
If that were completely true then he wouldn't have a council of tech advisors that all hold views counter to his own.
If the man is willing to talk to you about the things you care about, then why on earth wouldn't you?
- kevinstubbs 10y agoI've independently come to the same conclusion as you and OP, but some of my liberal friends on Facebook don't agree. I don't really understand the argument to "isolate and shun" by not joining his advisory boards. If there is pressure to keep Trump's ideological enemies out of the process, then that only leaves his supporters... Which leads to all of his sources of information supporting his decisions.
- zimpenfish 10y ago> Which leads to all of his sources of information supporting his decisions. What, in the last 18 months, gives you the impression he listens to anyone outside of his coterie of right-wing schmoozers anyway?
- anbende 10y agoThe fact that he spends time physically present and apparently listening to the left wing technocrats. Nobody is expecting a radical shift in his policies, but even minor shifts on key issues are arguably worth the small time investment. The man is self-interested, and self-interested people can generally be bargained with if you can find the places where their interests align with yours. In this case money and public opinion are good targets.
- sjg007 10y agoBecause the Advisory Council serves in name only and is a prop to grant legitimacy.
- kafkaesq 10y agoVery succinctly put.
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- woofyman 10y agoIt feeds his ego to have the titans of tech kiss his ring.
- kafkaesq 10y agoIf that were completely true then he wouldn't have a council of tech advisors that all hold views counter to his own. That's more of a sign of him doing the best he can to scrape from the bottom of the barrel than of any real respect for diversity of viewpoints, let alone "reason."
- davidw 10y agoIs he actually talking to them and listening to their advice?
- anbende 10y agoIf he's physically present and doesn't have his hands over his ears, he's at least hearing what they have to say. And these people are masters at finding ways to influence others based on others interests.
- dagw 10y agowhy on earth wouldn't you? It all comes down to why he wants to talk to me. Is it because he's interested in listening to what to have to say and take my advice under consideration or does he just want to use my 'fame' and my name to add legitimacy to the the actions he would have taken anyway.
- anbende 10y agoI think that people like Musk likely have a strong belief in their ability to persuade and influence. I think that the idea that Trump is completely uninfluencable is a bit hyperbolic. He's not an irrationality machine. He cares about things, just maybe not the things you or I care about, and so those things become avenues for influence and negotiation.
- kafkaesq 10y agoHe's not an irrationality machine. Well, I disagree with you there. Based on his actions, especially since assuming office, "irrationality machine" seems to be the perfect description of him.
- dllthomas 10y ago> a council of tech advisors that all hold views counter to his own. That's an odd characterization. Regarding views, I'm sure each of them disagrees with him on something (because they're all different human beings) but several of them endorsed him. Regarding "tech", that's not how I would label Pepsi, JP Morgan, the Cleveland Clinic, Walmart, BlackRock... Tech is less represented on the forum than financial services.