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Would someone please suspend this account already. He is not a "YC tech manager" as his profile implies (assuming he hasn't changed it just now). Based on comm

Would someone please suspend this account already. He is not a "YC tech manager" as his profile implies (assuming he hasn't changed it just now). Based on comment history, he appears to be a troll that has hijacked a dormant account with high karma. Frankly any account that falsely suggests a YC affiliation should be suspended without warning. If you have 1000+ karma, please use a secure password. Warning: red herrings below...

grzm 10y ago
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logicallee 10y ago
Hi - the above is very obvious satire: I am showcasing how insane European VC's are. You can see another take from me on this same theme by reading this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12198883 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12198883 You can read that and then read my reply (scroll down to about the third comment), part of which I'll quote "you've given a lot of hard data but fail to draw the obvious correct conclusions, that the reason you haven't raised financing is because you're not located in Silicon Valley and don't have an office there." Regarding the comment you just responded to: I purposefully made my comment extremely over the top (and insane), as satire. But I hoped the parent poster would reply by saying "if this is satire you are correct - this is exactly the reception we got. The last valuation we were offered is 1 million - and they wanted two thirds of the company." (Which would both be insulting, and kill the company.) Anyway I am within my edit window but don't feel a need to edit my obviously satirical (by no means troll) comment. Email me at the address I have listed (which likely on archive.org or elsewhere you can see has not changed in a long time), and I will confirm for you. I cannot emphasize enough that it is extremely obviously satirical - it makes fun of closed-minded European VC's. It was meant to evoke a sense of injustice. As clear and obvious satire - you can tell it's satire due to the facts it chooses to draw attention to, which are stellar. The "punchline", the second paragraph, is a total non sequitur. Given how - genuinely, really - amazing everything mentioned is, why would any VC want to rudely shut themselves out? Oh right - because they're a European VC, which was my satirical point. Finally, even if for some reason you didn't get right away that it's satire, there is no other explanation because the parent poster didn't ask for anything, and even if they had this would not be the place to post a reply. In case I have to spell it out, I'm obviously not a European VC and the post I replied to obviously did not try to contact me. I'd appreciate it if you made your comment less accusing.
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- hobofan 10y ago
  I feel like I understand what you are trying to say, but I still don't see the connection to OP's comment.
  - logicallee 10y ago
    The connection is "We are creating an online marketplace for short term work in Germany" and I wanted to congratulate them on getting 3 mil Eur revenue in 2016. To be honest I wanted to hear from them how raising funding has been and made an assumption (which they haven't responded to.) I can't overemphasize what huge genuine revenue numbers those are, for a startup, on the model he has described. If they're not getting investors tripping over themselves to invest at a $10M valuation (and they're almost certainly not) then it really frustrates me. Everything they described was great! I hope this makes the reason for my comment a bit clearer. I would also love to hear from paskster (the OP I replied to) with what their experience has been like building this kind of game-changing startup, specifically as regards venture capital funding.
detaro 10y ago
Having an gmail address in your profile that contains "HN" or "YC" really isn't "falsely suggesting a YC affiliation". It suggests "I want to keep my real address/identity private and created on specially to be reachable on HN", which is a completely sensible thing to do. And even if you really weren't sure, just asking (or contacting the mods) would have been the thing to do.
- logicallee 10y ago
  Thanks. I think it's not so bad that he didn't initially notice the satirical angle, so I did edit the original comment to clearly reference my reply which explains it (in case anyone missed it). But I wish he'd edit his comment to be more fair. For what it's worth, another comment I made recently (on "An Email Thread Between a Developer and Gigster") was in earnest, i.e. I would not mind getting that exact email as a developer, but could be taken as satire. So I think it's always fair to ask for satire to be pointed out explicitly. See Poe's law.[1] In this case though I was just making a satirical point about raising money from European VC's. (To me it is obvious and I just don't feel the need to edit it in any way, as explained in my reply.) There are always a few clues as to whether something is being written in earnest or as satire, and if you read carefully you can usually figure it out. In this case, you can tell it's satire due to the glowing praise and then complete and final, non-sequitur hard pass, in a way that doesn't make sense in the context of the thread. It has to have another layer of meaning. I considered adding something obvious but I wanted the satire to remain fair and nuanced. This may be why it was taken seriously. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law
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sctb 10y ago
We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13551754 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13551754 and marked it off-topic.

grzm 10y ago

If you have a concern along these lines, I recommend you contact the mods via the Contact link in the footer.

logicallee 10y ago

Hi - the above is very obvious satire: I am showcasing how insane European VC's are. You can see another take from me on this same theme by reading this comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12198883 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=12198883 You can read that and then read my reply (scroll down to about the third comment), part of which I'll quote "you've given a lot of hard data but fail to draw the obvious correct conclusions, that the reason you haven't raised financing is because you're not located in Silicon Valley and don't have an office there." Regarding the comment you just responded to: I purposefully made my comment extremely over the top (and insane), as satire. But I hoped the parent poster would reply by saying "if this is satire you are correct - this is exactly the reception we got. The last valuation we were offered is 1 million - and they wanted two thirds of the company." (Which would both be insulting, and kill the company.) Anyway I am within my edit window but don't feel a need to edit my obviously satirical (by no means troll) comment. Email me at the address I have listed (which likely on archive.org or elsewhere you can see has not changed in a long time), and I will confirm for you. I cannot emphasize enough that it is extremely obviously satirical - it makes fun of closed-minded European VC's. It was meant to evoke a sense of injustice. As clear and obvious satire - you can tell it's satire due to the facts it chooses to draw attention to, which are stellar. The "punchline", the second paragraph, is a total non sequitur. Given how - genuinely, really - amazing everything mentioned is, why would any VC want to rudely shut themselves out? Oh right - because they're a European VC, which was my satirical point. Finally, even if for some reason you didn't get right away that it's satire, there is no other explanation because the parent poster didn't ask for anything, and even if they had this would not be the place to post a reply. In case I have to spell it out, I'm obviously not a European VC and the post I replied to obviously did not try to contact me. I'd appreciate it if you made your comment less accusing.

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hobofan 10y ago
I feel like I understand what you are trying to say, but I still don't see the connection to OP's comment.
- logicallee 10y ago
  The connection is "We are creating an online marketplace for short term work in Germany" and I wanted to congratulate them on getting 3 mil Eur revenue in 2016. To be honest I wanted to hear from them how raising funding has been and made an assumption (which they haven't responded to.) I can't overemphasize what huge genuine revenue numbers those are, for a startup, on the model he has described. If they're not getting investors tripping over themselves to invest at a $10M valuation (and they're almost certainly not) then it really frustrates me. Everything they described was great! I hope this makes the reason for my comment a bit clearer. I would also love to hear from paskster (the OP I replied to) with what their experience has been like building this kind of game-changing startup, specifically as regards venture capital funding.

detaro 10y ago

Having an gmail address in your profile that contains "HN" or "YC" really isn't "falsely suggesting a YC affiliation". It suggests "I want to keep my real address/identity private and created on specially to be reachable on HN", which is a completely sensible thing to do. And even if you really weren't sure, just asking (or contacting the mods) would have been the thing to do.

logicallee 10y ago
Thanks. I think it's not so bad that he didn't initially notice the satirical angle, so I did edit the original comment to clearly reference my reply which explains it (in case anyone missed it). But I wish he'd edit his comment to be more fair. For what it's worth, another comment I made recently (on "An Email Thread Between a Developer and Gigster") was in earnest, i.e. I would not mind getting that exact email as a developer, but could be taken as satire. So I think it's always fair to ask for satire to be pointed out explicitly. See Poe's law.[1] In this case though I was just making a satirical point about raising money from European VC's. (To me it is obvious and I just don't feel the need to edit it in any way, as explained in my reply.) There are always a few clues as to whether something is being written in earnest or as satire, and if you read carefully you can usually figure it out. In this case, you can tell it's satire due to the glowing praise and then complete and final, non-sequitur hard pass, in a way that doesn't make sense in the context of the thread. It has to have another layer of meaning. I considered adding something obvious but I wanted the satire to remain fair and nuanced. This may be why it was taken seriously. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poe's_law

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sctb 10y ago

We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13551754 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13551754 and marked it off-topic.