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Agree, it's a fork, and was never merged back with the main branch as it was updated. Area 52 has been on hold for years: http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.c

Agree, it's a fork, and was never merged back with the main branch as it was updated. Area 52 has been on hold for years: http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/5089/next-generation-of-area-51/5102 http://discuss.area51.stackexchange.com/questions/5089/next-... Robert knows Area 51 isn't working, but given there's no other way to launch an SE users use it and SE as a result doesn't replace it because they're not interested in the long tail of active Q&A communities; last I checked, it takes them months, if not years to move a site from beta to live even after the community mets SE's requirements. Basically, SE changed their past policies to avoid building Area 52 and SE has no idea what a working Area 52 would be. If you want an SE, you've got to understand how Area 51 works, get all of your ducks in a row, then roll through it and the beta; otherwise your just asking for problems and leaving it up to SE to help, which is problematic. To me, the more interesting question would be what are the numbers since launch for Area 51's launch funnel; that is from submitting a proposal, de-duplicating it, (etc), site leaves beta.

Shog9 10y ago
If you're interested in this, post a question on Meta Stack Exchange; I can pull numbers if you have a concrete idea of you want data for.
- saycheese 10y ago
  Thanks for the offer Shog, stopped using SE/A51 years ago and as is, already have a pretty strong opinion of A51. My suggestion/request would be to just have SE post a request request for proposal to replace A51 on the main SE blog, since SE has had years to do so, has not, and positive the community would find a better solution.
  - Shog9 10y ago
    There's a longer answer here than I have time to compose, but the summary is simply that we long ago abandoned the idea that A Big Rewrite was a good idea. Instead, we've been making numerous small tweaks to how Area51 operates, adjusting based on outcome, for roughly the past 4 years. As such, the core philosophy (and bulk of the code) behind it is still more or less the same, but how proposals actually behave has changed dramatically. We've also made significant changes to the lifecycle of sites after they're created, which you can find discussed on Meta Stack Exchange: - https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/260754/feedback-requested-design-independent-graduation https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/260754/feedback-req... - http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/283663/its-been-a-year-whats-the-takeaway-from-design-independent-graduation/289876#289876 http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/283663/its-been-a-ye...
    - saycheese 10y ago
      Yes, aware of the changes, though to me, A51 is flawed from onboarding proposals to launching a final site. All and all, this was one of many reasons I left, the largest being that communities in my opinion should be based around tags, not verticals; tags are in fact in my opinion how SO is run. Again, thanks, and good luck!

Shog9 10y ago

If you're interested in this, post a question on Meta Stack Exchange; I can pull numbers if you have a concrete idea of you want data for.

saycheese 10y ago
Thanks for the offer Shog, stopped using SE/A51 years ago and as is, already have a pretty strong opinion of A51. My suggestion/request would be to just have SE post a request request for proposal to replace A51 on the main SE blog, since SE has had years to do so, has not, and positive the community would find a better solution.
- Shog9 10y ago
  There's a longer answer here than I have time to compose, but the summary is simply that we long ago abandoned the idea that A Big Rewrite was a good idea. Instead, we've been making numerous small tweaks to how Area51 operates, adjusting based on outcome, for roughly the past 4 years. As such, the core philosophy (and bulk of the code) behind it is still more or less the same, but how proposals actually behave has changed dramatically. We've also made significant changes to the lifecycle of sites after they're created, which you can find discussed on Meta Stack Exchange: - https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/260754/feedback-requested-design-independent-graduation https://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/260754/feedback-req... - http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/283663/its-been-a-year-whats-the-takeaway-from-design-independent-graduation/289876#289876 http://meta.stackexchange.com/questions/283663/its-been-a-ye...
  - saycheese 10y ago
    Yes, aware of the changes, though to me, A51 is flawed from onboarding proposals to launching a final site. All and all, this was one of many reasons I left, the largest being that communities in my opinion should be based around tags, not verticals; tags are in fact in my opinion how SO is run. Again, thanks, and good luck!