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The term "nation" typically means a collection of people with a common culture and ethnicity. The "Poles" are a nation, Poland is a state. That's why the the

The term "nation" typically means a collection of people with a common culture and ethnicity. The "Poles" are a nation, Poland is a state. That's why the the term nation-state exists, and contrasts with, say, empires composed of multiple nations. Canada, for example, traditionally described as a binational state, is now typically identified as a multicultural state, with some Québécois disliking the change in emphasis. Americans as a people are united in sloppily mishandling the term "nation", mostly because it doesn't really apply to us.

devmunchies 10y ago
America absolutely has a culture. Have you never lived in another country? Our houses, cars, schools, music, food, pass times, athletics, language (slang, dialects), entertainment, government, habits, communication (verbal, body language), aspirations, societal expectations, humor, things we find offensive/inoffensive, etc.
- msabalau 10y ago
  Britain has a culture, despite being composed of the English, Scots, and Welsh nations as well as many immigrants. One can, of course, feel entirely free to use words in arbitrary ways. But to correct someone (who clearly understands the correct usage of the term nation) with the nonsensical notion of a nation imposing taxes is odd.
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ygaf 10y ago
I'll admit to learning from your definition of nation just now. Sucks that I went well into adulthood never learning the proper meaning of a basic word. On the bright side, google has just given me the green light to continue using 'country' and state interchangeably. Americans sloppily mishandle a lot of things. That's a common culture right off the bat ;) in addition to everything devmunchies said.
- msabalau 10y ago
  To be fair to all of us Americans, nationality, even when when you understand what the term means, is still a sloppy concept, with porous boundaries inviting people to contest any particular usage. And that's putting aside aside any (perfectly appropriate) metaphorical usage i.e. "nation of immigrants". Anyway, hope that you find the definition useful going forward.. For example, the title "Birth of Nation" is clearer, even if the substance of the movie remains evil nonsense.
InitialLastName 10y ago
To be fair, Americans are also united in sloppily mishandling the term "state", mostly because it (arguably) no longer applies to us the way it used to.
Chris2048 10y ago
> a collection of people with a common culture and ethnicity google says: > people united by common descent, history, culture, or language You added "and ethnicity", are you saying a nation can't be composed of multiple ethnicity? And does it really matter? America is a country.

devmunchies 10y ago

America absolutely has a culture. Have you never lived in another country? Our houses, cars, schools, music, food, pass times, athletics, language (slang, dialects), entertainment, government, habits, communication (verbal, body language), aspirations, societal expectations, humor, things we find offensive/inoffensive, etc.

msabalau 10y ago
Britain has a culture, despite being composed of the English, Scots, and Welsh nations as well as many immigrants. One can, of course, feel entirely free to use words in arbitrary ways. But to correct someone (who clearly understands the correct usage of the term nation) with the nonsensical notion of a nation imposing taxes is odd.
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ygaf 10y ago

I'll admit to learning from your definition of nation just now. Sucks that I went well into adulthood never learning the proper meaning of a basic word. On the bright side, google has just given me the green light to continue using 'country' and state interchangeably. Americans sloppily mishandle a lot of things. That's a common culture right off the bat ;) in addition to everything devmunchies said.

msabalau 10y ago
To be fair to all of us Americans, nationality, even when when you understand what the term means, is still a sloppy concept, with porous boundaries inviting people to contest any particular usage. And that's putting aside aside any (perfectly appropriate) metaphorical usage i.e. "nation of immigrants". Anyway, hope that you find the definition useful going forward.. For example, the title "Birth of Nation" is clearer, even if the substance of the movie remains evil nonsense.

InitialLastName 10y ago

To be fair, Americans are also united in sloppily mishandling the term "state", mostly because it (arguably) no longer applies to us the way it used to.

Chris2048 10y ago

> a collection of people with a common culture and ethnicity google says: > people united by common descent, history, culture, or language You added "and ethnicity", are you saying a nation can't be composed of multiple ethnicity? And does it really matter? America is a country.