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I could more or less agree with most of it apart from > arguably the best dev IDE available (Visual Studio) and one of the best up-and-coming dev text editors

I could more or less agree with most of it apart from > arguably the best dev IDE available (Visual Studio) and one of the best up-and-coming dev text editors (VS Code) https://www.jetbrains.com/resharper/documentation/comparisonMatrix_R2016_1_vs2015.html https://www.jetbrains.com/resharper/documentation/comparison... Refactoring, Coding assistance, Navigation & search sections being most important.

alimbada 10y ago
Although the last version I used seriously was VS2013, VS on its own is pretty mediocre. With ReSharper though, nothing beats it in my opinion. On the other hand I've been using Eclipse and IntelliJ for the past year. Eclipse is not even worth talking about but even IntelliJ does not come close to vanilla VS in terms of usability. Again, my opinion.
- EGreg 10y ago
  What is better than VS? PHPStorm etc?
  - alimbada 10y ago
    I actually can't name anything better. I was just saying that whilst VS is "the best", the best isn't really that great (without a plugin from Jetbrains)...
- tonyedgecombe 10y ago
  Yes, it will be interesting to see what the JetBrains C# IDE is like when it's released.
kdevrou 10y ago
I couldn't agree more. I constantly see this claim made about Visual Studio. I find it to be in the way most of the time. It does sound like most of the features that I want are in Resharper; I'll have to try it out.
- flamtap 10y ago
  You will never, ever look back.
kdazzle 10y ago
Yeah, if I had a dollar for every time I had to restart Visual Studio in order to get something to work...especially test debugging. But IntelliJ always works perfectly. Must say that I can't wait for Jetbrains' Rider to come out.
- btschaegg 10y ago
  Yeah, same here. I can't count the amount of times I heard statements like that one (also about Eclipse) and was puzzled. I'm starting to think that people saying this just haven't had the curiosity to really explore the alternatives. That said, even though VS causes me to cringe pretty constantly when I use it, you have to give props to MS for the language integration tools they put together for .NET. Some of the tricks they managed to come up with (like moving the instruction pointer in a method while debugging) is pretty impressive. Unfortunately, every time I get amazed by something like this, either some blatantly stupid behavior of VS destroys the magic again, or it outright crashes. Sigh.

alimbada 10y ago

Although the last version I used seriously was VS2013, VS on its own is pretty mediocre. With ReSharper though, nothing beats it in my opinion. On the other hand I've been using Eclipse and IntelliJ for the past year. Eclipse is not even worth talking about but even IntelliJ does not come close to vanilla VS in terms of usability. Again, my opinion.

EGreg 10y ago
What is better than VS? PHPStorm etc?
- alimbada 10y ago
  I actually can't name anything better. I was just saying that whilst VS is "the best", the best isn't really that great (without a plugin from Jetbrains)...
tonyedgecombe 10y ago
Yes, it will be interesting to see what the JetBrains C# IDE is like when it's released.

kdevrou 10y ago

I couldn't agree more. I constantly see this claim made about Visual Studio. I find it to be in the way most of the time. It does sound like most of the features that I want are in Resharper; I'll have to try it out.

flamtap 10y ago
You will never, ever look back.

kdazzle 10y ago

Yeah, if I had a dollar for every time I had to restart Visual Studio in order to get something to work...especially test debugging. But IntelliJ always works perfectly. Must say that I can't wait for Jetbrains' Rider to come out.

btschaegg 10y ago
Yeah, same here. I can't count the amount of times I heard statements like that one (also about Eclipse) and was puzzled. I'm starting to think that people saying this just haven't had the curiosity to really explore the alternatives. That said, even though VS causes me to cringe pretty constantly when I use it, you have to give props to MS for the language integration tools they put together for .NET. Some of the tricks they managed to come up with (like moving the instruction pointer in a method while debugging) is pretty impressive. Unfortunately, every time I get amazed by something like this, either some blatantly stupid behavior of VS destroys the magic again, or it outright crashes. Sigh.