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I'm not trying to measure bias, the statement that I am challenging is that fox news has been moved to the left by the addition of other sources which are to th

by ouid 10y ago

I'm not trying to measure bias, the statement that I am challenging is that fox news has been moved to the left by the addition of other sources which are to the right of Fox news. This is only the case if the definition of unbiased is "average". My reasoning is as follows: Partisan bias is a type of bias. If there exists a way of presenting information without any bias, then it presents information without partisan bias. if such a method exists, then we do not need to measure news sources relative to each other in order to talk about what qualifies as non-partisan. This means that partisanship is a static quality of a piece of journalism, i.e. any method you propose of measuring partisanship should always give you the same answer for the same piece of journalism. If you interpreted fox as having a far right bias in 2004, and don't notice any particular change in their reporting, then you should interpret them as having a far right bias now.

beaconstudios 10y ago
but if fox is far right, where does that leave Breitbart? Most would say that Breitbart is more partisan, but you can't just make it "far far right". A scalar with a limit means that as you add new values towards the limit, other values have to shrink towards the root to compensate. Fox was "far right" in 2004 when politics was generally quite centrist, but now that politics has become much more polarised on both sides, fox is still fairly centrist but new, more partisan sources have come along. Fox's level of partisanship hasn't changed, the environment has, leading Fox's "relative partisanship" to go down.
- tropo 10y ago
  In that time period, the biggest change has been CNN making a dramatic move to the left. They went from near the center to being out with MSNBC, which was already well to the left and moving left. With that, we lost the closest thing we had to unbiased mainstream media. It's pretty disturbing that Fox is now the least biased. I miss the old CNN. :-(

by ouid 10y ago

beaconstudios 10y ago

but if fox is far right, where does that leave Breitbart? Most would say that Breitbart is more partisan, but you can't just make it "far far right". A scalar with a limit means that as you add new values towards the limit, other values have to shrink towards the root to compensate. Fox was "far right" in 2004 when politics was generally quite centrist, but now that politics has become much more polarised on both sides, fox is still fairly centrist but new, more partisan sources have come along. Fox's level of partisanship hasn't changed, the environment has, leading Fox's "relative partisanship" to go down.

tropo 10y ago
In that time period, the biggest change has been CNN making a dramatic move to the left. They went from near the center to being out with MSNBC, which was already well to the left and moving left. With that, we lost the closest thing we had to unbiased mainstream media. It's pretty disturbing that Fox is now the least biased. I miss the old CNN. :-(