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What's the actual incident? Does anybody have details? Wesearchr was banned from twitter for looking for information about the guy who sucker-punched Richard S

What's the actual incident? Does anybody have details? Wesearchr was banned from twitter for looking for information about the guy who sucker-punched Richard Spencer live on video. Is this ban for the same incident? This seems a little different from how I normally use the term "doxxing", which is posting real-life information about a person who would prefer to remain anonymous. I mean, I'm sure the guy who assaulted Spencer would prefer to remain anonymous, but others have good reason to oppose that.

fooey 10y ago
Doxxing is a violation of TOS regardless if it's for "good" or for "bad" reasons. Mods of such a controversial sub flagrantly participating in doxxing is basically forcing the admins to ban them.
AckSyn 10y ago
In my experience moderating a popular (default) subreddit, the admins and other mods will brush under the carpet actions done by the political left that would have the political right put under notice/(shadow)banned/sub-closed, and it's gotten worse exponentially show since the heat of the election season last summer. Searching for someone who committed a crime vs senseless "doxxing" (someone who hasn't committed a crime) are two different things. However, when it suits the reddit admin's purposes they'll outright ignore it or use a heavy hand and ban people/communities. They're heavy leftists, so you can guess where this tends to lead things on that site.
- jaredklewis 10y ago
  How is vigilante justice a good idea here? Why would someone committing a crime be a good reason to start an internet witch hunt? If someone has a tip, they should bring that information to the police, not their local internet conspiracy group.
  - AckSyn 10y ago
    Thing is, it's not a conspiracy group's effort, nor was it a witch hunt (which is looking for something that isn't there). They (and many others) were pointing people to police if they found anything out. The pictures were all over the internet and it's impossible to keep your ID hidden once your face is out there for the world to see.
    - jaredklewis 10y ago
      A bunch of white supremacists hunting to identify a man's assaulter. What could possibly go wrong? After all, white supremacists have a long history of being fair and impartial fact finders, simply looking for the truth. /s
- hackuser 10y ago
  > the admins and other mods will brush under the carpet actions done by the political left ... They're heavy leftists, so you can guess where this tends to lead things on that site. Can you back all of this up? Otherwise it's just more empty accusations on the Internet. Personally, I really don't like to see it on HN.
- illuminati1911 10y ago
  +1 And it's not just reddit, but also sites like twitter don't mind anti-white/anti-police hate groups, terrorist organizations, but if there is some right winger doing even half of the same stuff what these previously mentioned people did, they'll get banned, censored etc.
- realusername 10y ago
  r/altright was openly a neo-nazi subreddit, with hitler posters and calls to kills jews, at some point you need to draw a line on what should be there.
  - Omnius 10y ago
    I have no problem with them being in the streets screaming there message. In fact i prefer it then its easy to spot the crazy. For a private company like reddit i don't blame them at all for shutting them down. Even if reddit leans left (i am a libertarian) its there site/company they can do what they want. If people don't like it they will move elsewhere. I agree with you private companies and citizens shouldn't have to tolerate this non sense in the name of free speech.
    - realusername 10y ago
      Indeed it makes sense, sorry if I came a bit abrupt. It's just people assumed r/altright was something a bit like r/the_donald but in reality it was more like r/european (which also got banned for doxxing/harrassment of other users as well). I personally not welcome this kind of extreme free speech but I guess everyone has a different ideal of what free speech should be!
unprepare 10y ago
> but others have good reason to oppose that. Right, but legally the only people responsible for investigating this person are the police and other lawful authorities. enabling a vigilante justice system is exactly why anti-doxxing rules exist in the first place. do you not remember reddit after the boston bombing?

fooey 10y ago

Doxxing is a violation of TOS regardless if it's for "good" or for "bad" reasons. Mods of such a controversial sub flagrantly participating in doxxing is basically forcing the admins to ban them.

AckSyn 10y ago

In my experience moderating a popular (default) subreddit, the admins and other mods will brush under the carpet actions done by the political left that would have the political right put under notice/(shadow)banned/sub-closed, and it's gotten worse exponentially show since the heat of the election season last summer. Searching for someone who committed a crime vs senseless "doxxing" (someone who hasn't committed a crime) are two different things. However, when it suits the reddit admin's purposes they'll outright ignore it or use a heavy hand and ban people/communities. They're heavy leftists, so you can guess where this tends to lead things on that site.

jaredklewis 10y ago
How is vigilante justice a good idea here? Why would someone committing a crime be a good reason to start an internet witch hunt? If someone has a tip, they should bring that information to the police, not their local internet conspiracy group.
- AckSyn 10y ago
  Thing is, it's not a conspiracy group's effort, nor was it a witch hunt (which is looking for something that isn't there). They (and many others) were pointing people to police if they found anything out. The pictures were all over the internet and it's impossible to keep your ID hidden once your face is out there for the world to see.
  - jaredklewis 10y ago
    A bunch of white supremacists hunting to identify a man's assaulter. What could possibly go wrong? After all, white supremacists have a long history of being fair and impartial fact finders, simply looking for the truth. /s
hackuser 10y ago
> the admins and other mods will brush under the carpet actions done by the political left ... They're heavy leftists, so you can guess where this tends to lead things on that site. Can you back all of this up? Otherwise it's just more empty accusations on the Internet. Personally, I really don't like to see it on HN.
illuminati1911 10y ago
+1 And it's not just reddit, but also sites like twitter don't mind anti-white/anti-police hate groups, terrorist organizations, but if there is some right winger doing even half of the same stuff what these previously mentioned people did, they'll get banned, censored etc.
realusername 10y ago
r/altright was openly a neo-nazi subreddit, with hitler posters and calls to kills jews, at some point you need to draw a line on what should be there.
- Omnius 10y ago
  I have no problem with them being in the streets screaming there message. In fact i prefer it then its easy to spot the crazy. For a private company like reddit i don't blame them at all for shutting them down. Even if reddit leans left (i am a libertarian) its there site/company they can do what they want. If people don't like it they will move elsewhere. I agree with you private companies and citizens shouldn't have to tolerate this non sense in the name of free speech.
  - realusername 10y ago
    Indeed it makes sense, sorry if I came a bit abrupt. It's just people assumed r/altright was something a bit like r/the_donald but in reality it was more like r/european (which also got banned for doxxing/harrassment of other users as well). I personally not welcome this kind of extreme free speech but I guess everyone has a different ideal of what free speech should be!

unprepare 10y ago

> but others have good reason to oppose that. Right, but legally the only people responsible for investigating this person are the police and other lawful authorities. enabling a vigilante justice system is exactly why anti-doxxing rules exist in the first place. do you not remember reddit after the boston bombing?