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Some explanation here: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/5ri97o/raltright_has_been_banned_discuss_this_here/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDr

by ajkjk 10y ago

Some explanation here: https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/5ri97o/raltright_has_been_banned_discuss_this_here/ https://www.reddit.com/r/SubredditDrama/comments/5ri97o/ralt... "There is a website I can't link that is taking money to crowdfund doxxing efforts. After the admins banned that domain, the mods on /r/altright continued to manually approve submissions to that site and added them as sticky/announcement posts. My guess is that is the reasoning behind the ban." So they got banned for repeatedly and intentionally, with moderator support, circumventing Reddit's rules -- not for 'suppression of free speech' or anything like that. I'm sure the admins were glad to be rid of them, but, they really brought it on themselves.

askljkdjklsj 10y ago
What's the actual incident? Does anybody have details? Wesearchr was banned from twitter for looking for information about the guy who sucker-punched Richard Spencer live on video. Is this ban for the same incident? This seems a little different from how I normally use the term "doxxing", which is posting real-life information about a person who would prefer to remain anonymous. I mean, I'm sure the guy who assaulted Spencer would prefer to remain anonymous, but others have good reason to oppose that.
- fooey 10y ago
  Doxxing is a violation of TOS regardless if it's for "good" or for "bad" reasons. Mods of such a controversial sub flagrantly participating in doxxing is basically forcing the admins to ban them.
- AckSyn 10y ago
  In my experience moderating a popular (default) subreddit, the admins and other mods will brush under the carpet actions done by the political left that would have the political right put under notice/(shadow)banned/sub-closed, and it's gotten worse exponentially show since the heat of the election season last summer. Searching for someone who committed a crime vs senseless "doxxing" (someone who hasn't committed a crime) are two different things. However, when it suits the reddit admin's purposes they'll outright ignore it or use a heavy hand and ban people/communities. They're heavy leftists, so you can guess where this tends to lead things on that site.
  - jaredklewis 10y ago
    How is vigilante justice a good idea here? Why would someone committing a crime be a good reason to start an internet witch hunt? If someone has a tip, they should bring that information to the police, not their local internet conspiracy group.
    - AckSyn 10y ago
      Thing is, it's not a conspiracy group's effort, nor was it a witch hunt (which is looking for something that isn't there). They (and many others) were pointing people to police if they found anything out. The pictures were all over the internet and it's impossible to keep your ID hidden once your face is out there for the world to see.
      - jaredklewis 10y ago
        A bunch of white supremacists hunting to identify a man's assaulter. What could possibly go wrong? After all, white supremacists have a long history of being fair and impartial fact finders, simply looking for the truth. /s
  - hackuser 10y ago
    > the admins and other mods will brush under the carpet actions done by the political left ... They're heavy leftists, so you can guess where this tends to lead things on that site. Can you back all of this up? Otherwise it's just more empty accusations on the Internet. Personally, I really don't like to see it on HN.
  - illuminati1911 10y ago
    +1 And it's not just reddit, but also sites like twitter don't mind anti-white/anti-police hate groups, terrorist organizations, but if there is some right winger doing even half of the same stuff what these previously mentioned people did, they'll get banned, censored etc.
  - realusername 10y ago
    r/altright was openly a neo-nazi subreddit, with hitler posters and calls to kills jews, at some point you need to draw a line on what should be there.
- unprepare 10y ago
  > but others have good reason to oppose that. Right, but legally the only people responsible for investigating this person are the police and other lawful authorities. enabling a vigilante justice system is exactly why anti-doxxing rules exist in the first place. do you not remember reddit after the boston bombing?
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by ajkjk 10y ago

askljkdjklsj 10y ago

What's the actual incident? Does anybody have details? Wesearchr was banned from twitter for looking for information about the guy who sucker-punched Richard Spencer live on video. Is this ban for the same incident? This seems a little different from how I normally use the term "doxxing", which is posting real-life information about a person who would prefer to remain anonymous. I mean, I'm sure the guy who assaulted Spencer would prefer to remain anonymous, but others have good reason to oppose that.

fooey 10y ago
Doxxing is a violation of TOS regardless if it's for "good" or for "bad" reasons. Mods of such a controversial sub flagrantly participating in doxxing is basically forcing the admins to ban them.
AckSyn 10y ago
In my experience moderating a popular (default) subreddit, the admins and other mods will brush under the carpet actions done by the political left that would have the political right put under notice/(shadow)banned/sub-closed, and it's gotten worse exponentially show since the heat of the election season last summer. Searching for someone who committed a crime vs senseless "doxxing" (someone who hasn't committed a crime) are two different things. However, when it suits the reddit admin's purposes they'll outright ignore it or use a heavy hand and ban people/communities. They're heavy leftists, so you can guess where this tends to lead things on that site.
- jaredklewis 10y ago
  How is vigilante justice a good idea here? Why would someone committing a crime be a good reason to start an internet witch hunt? If someone has a tip, they should bring that information to the police, not their local internet conspiracy group.
  - AckSyn 10y ago
    Thing is, it's not a conspiracy group's effort, nor was it a witch hunt (which is looking for something that isn't there). They (and many others) were pointing people to police if they found anything out. The pictures were all over the internet and it's impossible to keep your ID hidden once your face is out there for the world to see.
    - jaredklewis 10y ago
      A bunch of white supremacists hunting to identify a man's assaulter. What could possibly go wrong? After all, white supremacists have a long history of being fair and impartial fact finders, simply looking for the truth. /s
- hackuser 10y ago
  > the admins and other mods will brush under the carpet actions done by the political left ... They're heavy leftists, so you can guess where this tends to lead things on that site. Can you back all of this up? Otherwise it's just more empty accusations on the Internet. Personally, I really don't like to see it on HN.
- illuminati1911 10y ago
  +1 And it's not just reddit, but also sites like twitter don't mind anti-white/anti-police hate groups, terrorist organizations, but if there is some right winger doing even half of the same stuff what these previously mentioned people did, they'll get banned, censored etc.
- realusername 10y ago
  r/altright was openly a neo-nazi subreddit, with hitler posters and calls to kills jews, at some point you need to draw a line on what should be there.
unprepare 10y ago
> but others have good reason to oppose that. Right, but legally the only people responsible for investigating this person are the police and other lawful authorities. enabling a vigilante justice system is exactly why anti-doxxing rules exist in the first place. do you not remember reddit after the boston bombing?

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